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Kraken
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 Posted: 06-Jul-2002 20:53 Post subject: Hollander Varient |
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This one is simple: trade out the Guass from the original for an Arrow IV.
Fluff: Despite its grand intentions, the Hollander was still considered a failure by many. The original's firepower was just too limited, and the main combat version simply didn't have enough armor. With orders drying up for a still relatively new design, something had to be done or else the company would take a massive financial hit. This version was designed to play into the Hollander's one major asset: its speed. The design's speed, combined with its massive weapons potential, combines in this version to create the lightest artillery mech in the Inner Sphere. It is hoped that this verison will take just enough pressure off of the company for them to retire the other varients of the Hollander with dignity.
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chihawk
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| Posted: 06-Jul-2002 20:56 Post subject: Hollander Varient |
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Ahhh, you turned an almost useless mech into a totally useless mech...good job!!! 
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| Posted: 06-Jul-2002 21:28 Post subject: Hollander Varient |
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It's not totally useless- a Yeoman in the jungle is totally useless.
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Nightmare
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| Posted: 07-Jul-2002 06:30 Post subject: Hollander Varient |
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A Charger CGR-1A1 in mountain terrain is totally useless. A Hollander with ArrowIV battery is actually useful, although I`ll take the Gauss Rifle model every day  Nothing like a GR to stiffen your medium lances` firepower when the rest of the mechs are Wolverines, Phoenix Hawks and such.
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Karagin
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| Posted: 07-Jul-2002 09:27 Post subject: Hollander Varient |
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Wouldn't a UAC10 or an LB-10X be a better weapon on this mech? OR hell even a normal AC10?
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Ares
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| Posted: 07-Jul-2002 09:30 Post subject: Hollander Varient |
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It's supposed to serve a purpose as a fast artillery mech Karrigan.
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Karagin
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| Posted: 07-Jul-2002 09:56 Post subject: Hollander Varient |
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Then toss a Thumper on it...
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Kraken
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| Posted: 07-Jul-2002 13:27 Post subject: Hollander Varient |
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I was considering that, but the Arrow IV just makes more sense realistically- almost everything artillery uses it, so the ammo and parts for it are the most common.
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Sir Henry
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| Posted: 08-Jul-2002 07:39 Post subject: Hollander Varient |
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It's not totally useless...It can serve as a bad example...
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Karagin
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| Posted: 08-Jul-2002 10:25 Post subject: Hollander Varient |
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I have seen folks try to use the Hollander as an Urbanmech...
Thumper weighs as much as the Gauss rifle and it should be able to carry the same amount of ammo too correct?
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| Posted: 08-Jul-2002 11:51 Post subject: Hollander Varient |
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I think so- I'll have to check. While the Thumper would look similar physically, the Arrow IV is just the most common- I don't even think that the Thumper is being produced anymore.
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Karagin
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| Posted: 08-Jul-2002 13:37 Post subject: Hollander Varient |
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It may not be in production anymore...but that wouldn't rule out it showing up in the hands of some one.
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| Posted: 08-Jul-2002 14:11 Post subject: Hollander Varient |
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Then that would defeat the purpose. The fluff directly states that this is a last-ditch factory variation in an attempt to squueze the last little bit of money from the Hollander before they may be forced to shut the line down.
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Sir Henry
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| Posted: 09-Jul-2002 07:39 Post subject: Hollander Varient |
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I understand that. My Variant uses a Clan ERPPC and ER MLs plus Extra DHS. Works OK...
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| Posted: 09-Jul-2002 13:31 Post subject: Hollander Varient |
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On 2002-07-07 09:27, Karagin wrote:
Wouldn't a UAC10 or an LB-10X be a better weapon on this mech? OR hell even a normal AC10?
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1 of the hollander variants already has a LB-10X. Along with a couple ML's I think
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