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Karagin
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 Posted: 01-May-2002 22:17 Post subject: DFA |
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How many here actually use this? Is it, DFA, worth the risk?
What do you folks think?
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Kraken
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| Posted: 01-May-2002 22:22 Post subject: DFA |
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First off, don't be surprised if by the morning Chihawk moves this to the General Discussion menu.
I have only used it once, and that was as a last-ditch effort. It's so hard to pull off and with so much risk of backfiring that few people would use it. Even then, you would need a mech with full leg armor (or at least near-full.) Best results would suggest a heavier-end mech, but most don't have jets, especially many of the older ones.
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ICER
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| Posted: 01-May-2002 22:54 Post subject: DFA |
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Same as with Kraken. A last ditch. And only then if I really had to win the battle. Such moves are frowned upon in the clans. Waste and all. And most the time. I am offered Higra before it comes down to such actions.
But I have used it once or twice. And was not disappointed with the results
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| Posted: 01-May-2002 22:59 Post subject: DFA |
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God, I hate to use this example, but... DFA is the best finishing move. It's got a little class, loads of style and it is a heck of a lot easier to DFA the prone, immobile mech that is missing a leg. And of course, snatching victory from the jaws of defeat with a hail Mary DFA is talked about for years.
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Talen
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| Posted: 01-May-2002 23:21 Post subject: DFA |
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Ask Gangrene about my use of DFA. I used a 65 tonner to take out a 95 tonner. it actually worked pretty well. The 65 tonner ended up falling on its head after the attack...but I knocked his 'mech over, allowing my lance-mates to fire on a prone 'mech for the next few turns. He surrendered cause he couldnt get back up. So it can work, when used properly...
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chihawk
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| Posted: 02-May-2002 06:14 Post subject: DFA |
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I'm wondering why I'd move this from "General Discussion" to "General Discussion"? 
DFAs are such a successful move I invite every one of my opponents from this point forward to attempt the manuever.
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Sir Henry
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| Posted: 02-May-2002 07:56 Post subject: DFA |
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I'm sure you would enjoy watching them fall on the faces....Until one actually lands on you, pile-driving you into the ground......
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Pinhead
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| Posted: 02-May-2002 08:55 Post subject: DFA |
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DFA can be a very effective move. Just have to know when to use it. I love it when my completely healthy opponent decides that he "needs to DFA me" and lands at my feet in a huddled mass.
It used to be very effective to push a target into a hex he doesn't want to go (Like down the side of a hill, or off a map) because you used to automatically claim the target hex whether you hit or not. I believe though, that rule has changed and a miss puts you in the hex just before the target's.
I don't use it much, but it is always good for a surprise.
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Gangrene
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| Posted: 02-May-2002 14:01 Post subject: DFA |
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On 2002-05-01 23:21, Talen wrote:
Ask Gangrene about my use of DFA. I used a 65 tonner to take out a 95 tonner. it actually worked pretty well. The 65 tonner ended up falling on its head after the attack...but I knocked his 'mech over, allowing my lance-mates to fire on a prone 'mech for the next few turns. He surrendered cause he couldnt get back up. So it can work, when used properly...
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Grrrrrrrrrr #$%%@!! stupid $^$#! DFA maneuver. We have to have a rematch sometime.
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chihawk
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| Posted: 02-May-2002 15:49 Post subject: DFA |
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No, the attacker still claims the hex but on a miss the defender chooses what hex s/he moves to. On a hit the defender is moved 1 hex in the opposite direction of the attack.
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Talen
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| Posted: 02-May-2002 16:01 Post subject: DFA |
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Gangrene...I am open to a rematch any day after Memorial Day weekend! And this time I think the teams should be a lil' more balanced...
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Horhiro
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| Posted: 02-May-2002 18:04 Post subject: DFA |
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So your Pheonix Hawk has lost both his arms? DFA baby...DFA! (besides, charging someone when you have no arms just looks plain silly, Black Knight anyone?)
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Tiger
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| Posted: 02-May-2002 18:21 Post subject: DFA |
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A nice DFA is alot of fun in a Highlander or a Gladiator, especially fun if you're using a CGR-1A9. Your opponent takes one look at your record sheet, laughs and then cries when you land your pathetic 80 ton mech on his head.
[ This Message was edited by: Tiger on 2002-05-03 19:55 ]
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chihawk
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| Posted: 02-May-2002 19:13 Post subject: DFA |
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I usually laugh when anyone declares a DFA against one of my units.
I get to shoot them and then they almost always crash into the ground causing themselves more damage.
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| Posted: 02-May-2002 21:00 Post subject: DFA |
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I rarely use any physical attack. They just made the rules too defender biased for my tastes.
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