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Goose
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 Posted: 21-Feb-2022 00:57 Post subject: Just Because You Can, Doesn't Mean … : Whitworth WTH-2X |
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| Code: | BattleMech Technical Readout
Type/Model: Whitworth WTH-2X
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3062
Config: Biped BattleMech
Rules: Level 3, Standard design
Mass: 40 tons
Chassis: Whitworth Type I Endo Steel
Power Plant: 160 LTV Fusion
Walking Speed: 43.2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 64.8 km/h
Jump Jets: 4 Whitworth Jetlift Standard Jump Jets
Jump Capacity: 120 meters
Armor Type: Durallex Light Light Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
2 ER Small Lasers
1 Arrow IV System
Manufacturer: Whitworth Company
Location: Dieron
Communications System: Garret T-14
Targeting & Tracking System: Garret D2j
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Type/Model: Whitworth WTH-2X
Mass: 40 tons
Construction Options: Fractional Accounting
Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 67 pts Endo Steel 14 2.00
(Endo Steel Loc: 4 LA, 6 RA, 4 RT)
Engine: 160 Fusion 6 6.00
Walking MP: 4
Running MP: 6
Jumping MP: 4
Heat Sinks: 10 Single 4 .00
(Heat Sink Loc: 1 RA, 1 RT, 2 CT)
Gyro: 4 2.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors: 5 3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA R: Sh+UA+LA 14 .00
Armor Factor: 127 pts Light Ferro-Fibrous 7 7.49
(Armor Crit Loc: 1 LA, 1 RA, 5 RT)
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 8
Center Torso: 12 16
Center Torso (Rear): 7
L/R Side Torso: 10 12/12
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 6/6
L/R Arm: 6 12/12
L/R Leg: 10 18/18
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
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1 ER Small Laser RA 2 1 .50
1 ER Small Laser LA 2 1 .50
1 Arrow IV System LT 10 5 16 16.00
(Ammo Locations: 1 RT)
CASE Equipment: RT 1 .50
4 Standard Jump Jets: 4 2.00
(Jump Jet Loc: 2 LL, 2 RL)
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TOTALS: 14 77 39.99
Crits & Tons Left: 1 .01
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 3,238,924 C-Bills
Battle Value 2: 985 (old BV = 811)
Cost per BV2: 3,288.25
Weapon Value: 475 / 475 (Ratio = .48 / .48)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 13; MRDmg = 12; LRDmg = 12
BattleForce2: MP: 4J, Armor/Structure: 3/3
Damage PB/M/L: 2/1/1, Overheat: 0
Class: MM; Point Value: 10
Specials: artA |
Yeah: The Endo-Steel seems out'a place.
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| Posted: 21-Feb-2022 03:23 Post subject: Just Because You Can, Doesn't Mean … : Whitworth WTH-2X |
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I think it would be more effective in its design mission if you moved 1 ER-SL to the head, removed the other and replaced the CASE with a 2nd ton of ammo, so you have 10 shots before having to leave and reload, and if they crit your artillery platform before it gets 5 shots down-range, then you did something very wrong.
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Goose
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| Posted: 21-Feb-2022 11:08 Post subject: Just Because You Can, Doesn't Mean … : Whitworth WTH-2X |
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 I don't think I can call it a Whitworth if it dosen't have a laser in each arm; I feel bad about the head laser (& armor!), but how far can you reconfig things, and still claim it's "a model X?"
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Mordel
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| Posted: 21-Feb-2022 17:16 Post subject: Re: Just Because You Can, Doesn't Mean … : Whitworth WTH-2X |
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| Goose wrote: | | I don't think I can call it a Whitworth if it dosen't have a laser in each arm; I feel bad about the head laser (& armor!), but how far can you reconfig things, and still claim it's "a model X?" |
As much as you want, theoretically. But yes, I think there are certain things about units that make them what they are. If you change those "things", the unit no longer is what it once was. Deep...
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| Posted: 21-Feb-2022 20:00 Post subject: Just Because You Can, Doesn't Mean … : Whitworth WTH-2X |
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A mech doesn't need a laser in both arms to be a Whitworth, the WTH-2 only has a ML in the head, along with it's 2 LRMs. Changing from 1 launcher in each Side Torso to a single launcher in the Right Torso is a bigger frame changer than the lasers and frankly 2 ER-SL aren't even a serious threat to a Locust, or infantry. There basically a waist of tonnage for all practical purposes and wasting a 1/2 ton to give the pilot the moral boost of having something for backup is better than wasting 5 more shots with his main weapon. Alternately you can replace the CASE with a 3-rd ER-SL in the Head and with 3 he could wade in after taking his 5 shots and may actually get a few crits in while being ignored for having such light weaponry remaining. Personally I would prefer to get 5 more missiles down range then have him leave. Landing a single HE round in the same hex as a target does more damage than 8 hits from those SL, and even a near miss from one of those monsters will do as much a 5 hits from those little flashlights.
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| Posted: 17-Dec-2022 20:17 Post subject: Just Because You Can, Doesn't Mean … : Whitworth WTH-2X |
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| Code: | BattleMech Technical Readout
Type/Model: Whitworth WTH-2XX
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3062
Config: Biped BattleMech
Rules: Level 3, Standard design
Mass: 40 tons
Chassis: Whitworth Type I Standard
Power Plant: 160 LTV Fusion
Walking Speed: 43.2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 64.8 km/h
Jump Jets: 4 Whitworth Jetlift Standard Jump Jets
Jump Capacity: 120 meters
Armor Type: Durallex Light Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
2 ER Small Lasers
1 Arrow IV System
Manufacturer: Whitworth Company
Location: Dieron
Communications System: Garret T-14
Targeting & Tracking System: Garret D2j
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==Capabilities:==
Rugged (1) 1
Weak Legs -1
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Type/Model: Whitworth WTH-2XX
Mass: 40 tons
Construction Options: Fractional Accounting
Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 67 pts Standard 0 4.00
Engine: 160 Fusion 6 6.00
Walking MP: 4
Running MP: 6
Jumping MP: 4
Heat Sinks: 10 Single 4 .00
(Heat Sink Loc: 4 RT)
XL Gyro: 6 1.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors: 5 3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA R: Sh+UA+LA 14 .00
Armor Factor: 116 pts Ferro-Fibrous 14 6.47
(Armor Crit Loc: 1 HD, 5 LA, 4 RA, 4 RT)
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 7
Center Torso: 12 16
Center Torso (Rear): 5
L/R Side Torso: 10 12/12
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 5/5
L/R Arm: 6 10/10
L/R Leg: 10 17/17
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
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1 ER Small Laser RA 2 1 .50
1 ER Small Laser LA 2 1 .50
1 Arrow IV System LT 10 5 16 16.00
(Ammo Locations: 1 RT)
CASE Equipment: RT 1 .50
4 Standard Jump Jets: 4 2.00
(Jump Jet Loc: 2 LL, 2 RL)
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TOTALS: 14 72 39.97
Crits & Tons Left: 6 .03
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 3,405,594 C-Bills
Battle Value 2: 952 (old BV = 784)
Cost per BV2: 3,577.3
Weapon Value: 443 / 443 (Ratio = .47 / .47)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 13; MRDmg = 12; LRDmg = 12
BattleForce2: MP: 4J, Armor/Structure: 3/3
Damage PB/M/L: 2/1/1, Overheat: 0
Class: MM; Point Value: 10
Specials: artA |
I'm guessing it's easier to do the armor, and gyro, then to do the frame. 
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