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MEX
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 Posted: 02-Jul-2002 08:12 Post subject: Martial Olympiad |
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Hi all,
in the Martial Olympiad the ProtoMechs have GUNNERY ZERO ! 
Too bad that i can't use my entire point in the MO scenarios 
The Rifleman RFL-3N(C) combines 2 Lage Pulse Lasers + 2 LB 5-X AC with GUNNERY 2 / PILOTING 2 in the MO scenarios.
I think a lot of people will use this 2nd line mech in the Martial Olympiad.
MfG, MEX
P.S.: Hi Clutch,
i noticed that my Clan Blood Spirits Jump Infantry Platoon SRM must have 21 members because of the BV of 71 !
Usually The Clans use 25 ( or 20 ) men in a Infantry Platoon.
Are you sure that the data i got from registrating for the MO is correct ?
[ This Message was edited by: MEX on 2002-07-02 08:19 ]
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Jade_Dragon
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| Posted: 02-Jul-2002 09:42 Post subject: Martial Olympiad |
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The MO is a good idea, unfortunately it is not support in my area. Too few players out this way.
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MEX
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| Posted: 02-Jul-2002 09:58 Post subject: Martial Olympiad |
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| On 2002-07-02 09:42, Jade_Dragon wrote:
The MO is a good idea, unfortunately it is not support in my area. Too few players out this way. |
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Dont give up !
You have time until the end of august to participate in the MO.
Just registrate a player ( i live in Vienna and have #1030 ) before it is too late.
Maybe one of the new Commando's will organize a MO event near you.
MfG, MEX
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Ronin
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| Posted: 02-Jul-2002 12:03 Post subject: Martial Olympiad |
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On 2002-07-02 08:12, MEX wrote:
in the Martial Olympiad the ProtoMechs have GUNNERY ZERO !
Too bad that i can't use my entire point in the MO scenarios
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Are you sure? The last I read the rules, Protos fell under the rule that states that you have to multiply their BV by 5 before you cross reference their skills. Depending on teh Proto, you could get gunnery skills ranging from 0 to 5 or so.
Either way, I included some Protos in my force selection so I could have some flexibility in my battle plans.
Ronin
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MEX
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| Posted: 02-Jul-2002 12:25 Post subject: Martial Olympiad |
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| On 2002-07-02 08:12, MEX wrote:
in the Martial Olympiad the ProtoMechs have GUNNERY ZERO !
Too bad that i can't use my entire point in the MO scenarios |
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| On 2002-07-02 12:03, Ronin wrote:
Are you sure? The last I read the rules, Protos fell under the rule that states that you have to multiply their BV by 5 before you cross reference their skills. |
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In the Olympiad Introduction only Infantry/BattleArmor have to be multiplied by 5. Where do you read that ProtoMechs have to be multiplied by 5 too ?
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Ronin
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| Posted: 02-Jul-2002 12:36 Post subject: Martial Olympiad |
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It may have been on the older version of the rules. Either that, or I assumed that Protos fell under the Infantry/Battlearmor category. Oh well, it wouldn't be the first time I was wrong 
Hmmm, if you don't have to multiply the protos BV, then I could have had better Protos. Then again, the protos I did sign up with will just be all the better!
Ronin
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MEX
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| Posted: 02-Jul-2002 12:53 Post subject: Martial Olympiad |
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| On 2002-07-02 12:36, Ronin wrote:
It may have been on the older version of the rules. Either that, or I assumed that Protos fell under the Infantry/Battlearmor category. Oh well, it wouldn't be the first time I was wrong |
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I checked the document again and had to discover that they had changed the rules in the meantime
Now i have a entire STAR of ProtoMechs !
Which means that i have a total of 32 units ( if you count the Elemental BA and Infanty platoons as a single unit ).
But having 5 Roc's with a Gunnery of 3 each instead of a single Roc with Gunnery 0 isn't too bad
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Ronin
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| Posted: 02-Jul-2002 13:20 Post subject: Martial Olympiad |
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Yup. A decent Proto design can be as effective as a lower end light mech, and when you have 5 of the buggers running around counting as a single unit because 5 protos make a point, you can really mess up someone's day.
Ronin
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MEX
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| Posted: 02-Jul-2002 14:02 Post subject: Martial Olympiad |
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| On 2002-07-02 13:20, Ronin wrote:
Yup. A decent Proto design can be as effective as a lower end light mech, and when you have 5 of the buggers running around counting as a single unit because 5 protos make a point, you can really mess up someone's day. |
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But only if you can move each ProtoMech for its own !
If the Commando's rule that you have to move your point of ProtoMechs like a point of Elementals, ProtoMechs loose much of their flavour 
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Shadowking
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| Posted: 02-Jul-2002 14:43 Post subject: Martial Olympiad |
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well, if basic infantry cannot be allowed to break up into their 7 man squads, I do no think the protos should be allowed to move around seperately as well.
Of course, i say that because i won't be using protos
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Ronin
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| Posted: 02-Jul-2002 17:56 Post subject: Martial Olympiad |
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Well, I figure that since the miniatures for Protomechs are separate for each individual Proto, then they probably will be moved independently. Infantry and elemental minis tend to be mounted together on one hex base, and take damage as a unit, but the individual protos each get their own hex base and take damage separately.
At least I hope so...
I may want to go over the protomech rules at least one more time before my MO battles... 
Ronin
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MEX
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| Posted: 02-Jul-2002 21:17 Post subject: Martial Olympiad |
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| On 2002-07-02 14:43, Shadowking wrote:
well, if basic infantry cannot be allowed to break up into their 7 man squads, I do no think the protos should be allowed to move around seperately as well. |
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Accourding to TR 3060 a single ProtoMech counts as a vehicle unit for stacking purposes.
As only a maximum of 4 units fits into a single hex, there is no way to place a entire point of ProtoMechs in a single hex.
Infantry Platoons & BattleArmor Points count as a single unit. They dont split up into singe squads or BattleArmors accordung to the BTMR.
MfG, MEX
P.S.: In the email i got from CommandHQ after registrating a player for MO there are some errors:
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Faction: Blood Spirits
UNIT LISTING
-Infantry _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ BV Tonnage Cost _ _ _ Level _ _ _ TRO
Jump Infantry Platoon SRM _ 71 (71)*_ 1 _ _ _ 0 _ _ _ Clan/Level 2 _ 3025
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Roc _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 284 _ _ 7 _ _ 839,388 _ Clan/Level 2 _ 3060
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According to this email i get only a single ProtoMech instead of a entire point and my Clan Infantry Platoon has 21 members but weight only 1 ton instead of the usual 4 tons !
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Sir Henry
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| Posted: 03-Jul-2002 07:46 Post subject: Martial Olympiad |
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I'll stick to the Kings of the Battlefield...PBI and Proto's give me headaches...
Sir Henry
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chihawk
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| Posted: 03-Jul-2002 07:59 Post subject: Martial Olympiad |
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For those that care, I think the rules for this thing have changed a couple times--or at least have been "clarified". You might want to head over to CBT and check out the appropriate forum there.
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Shadowking
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| Posted: 03-Jul-2002 11:06 Post subject: Martial Olympiad |
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| Max tech rules. Infantry platoons can split up into squads of 7 men each. Rather than running around as 1 big target of 21-28 guys. They would then also get the bonus +1 that battlesuits get when someone is trying to shoot at them due to the small group formation size.
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