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chihawk
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 Posted: 24-May-2003 20:32 Post subject: I'm not a Dub-ya fan... |
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...but this is a bit much 
http://www.nettavisen.no/servlets/page?section=1706&item=269101
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| Posted: 25-May-2003 00:46 Post subject: RE: I'm not a Dub-ya fan... |
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>>>Jan O. Karlsson said he used the coarse description of the President in connection with criticising US politics on AIDS and abortions and criticising the fact that that the US has withheld financial means from the UN.
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(chuckle) Our politics on Aids, is we send millions of aid to Africa each year while most of Europe does nothing.
Our politics on abortions represents the deep division in the general populace on the rightness or wrongness of terminating the early life of an infant.
And yes, we haven't paid our bills to the UN, but then again, when someone can explain to me why our bill is so very much higher than any other country out there, perhaps I'll feel badly about that.
There are alot of things that we do poorly, like perhaps the division between the poor and pretty much everyone else in america, or our tendency to believe that our way is always the correct way when dealing with other countries.... I could think of a few more, but the three he picked We aren't really any worse than any other country, in fact better than most.
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| Posted: 25-May-2003 22:28 Post subject: RE: I'm not a Dub-ya fan... |
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Oh boy didn't pay our bills to the U.N. Ya know if we REALLY wanted to we could have the rest of the world paying bills to us. But we don't, why? cause we're nice like that. I personally don't like Dub-ya, but I'm not gonna publicly denounse him... I'll just vote against him in the next election. Unless of course he is (and sadly this sounds like a real possiblity) the best candidate.
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| Posted: 26-May-2003 06:04 Post subject: RE: I'm not a Dub-ya fan... |
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I voted for him, was glad to. The Democratic party lies about what time of day it is while you are looking at your wristwatch and expects you to take their word for it. And like Clinton there is nothing any of them have claimed to support that they have not just as quickly claimed not to support whenever convenient or when they think it will get them another vote. Republicans don't do that, we stand by what we say. It's why we're winning so many elections lately.
I've despised the UN for most of my adult life, they're nothing but a bunch of criminal leeches. The reason all those starving people are still starving after these last 5 decades or so is because most of the money that passes into UN hands never reaches them, it stops in the pockets of third world ambassadors and UN executives and their fellow politicians and dictators back home (a major reason why Americans have been systematically shut out of any important UN jobs in recent years).
Do you know the food for oil program had over 1,000 UN empoyees and 3,000 more in Iraq (all Bath party members?) and controlled more than 1 1/2 BILLION worth of Saddams oil money when we invaded Iraq? And yet the people of Iraq were starving for the past decade and more. And the UN flatly refuses to let anyone examine the account books for that program.
As for our "bill" owed the UN, I always considered that giving them free land for the HQ in New York and paying to build it too should have done for that. Beyond that, since all nations have the same one vote in the UN general assembly, why not bill each nation the same amount in membership dues as each other nation is paying?
If I recall, most of the "unpaid bill" that Clinton coughed up for them was from George senior refusing to pay it and they shut up when he said "why don't you shut up or move out of New York?". Most of that was for I think UNESCO? The humanitarian aid buerocracy part of the UN? That bunch can easily win 1st prize for the "Most currupted and incompetent beurocracy on the face of the earth throughout all history contest." And when they're not making money disappear, they are telling the 3rd World not to use pesticides, etc. on their crops, which is why they have so many famines and malaria death takes lives by the millions.
For such a charity outfit oddly enough it is many a third world political appointee of modest means who has come to work for that organisation and retired and left it a very well-off or wealthy man. They really do believe in redistribution of wealth these 3rd world UN leaders, from our pockets straight into theirs and to hell with how many people starve to death when the food and medicine don't show up. Or how many kids die of Malaria and other ills that in the West have become all but unknown thanks to the use of crop-dusting.
That Swedish minister is little better than those 3rd World people. They hate Bush's guts because every single day he spends in the White House he shows the world what honest and competent leadership looks like and they're scared to death that enough of their own citizens are going to decide that their own govt. leaders look nothing like that.
Even the Norwegians running the Nobel peace prize can't do it with honesty and competence anymore. They gave it to Carter solely to insult Pres. Bush. Jimmy Carter may be sincere and all, but not one single peace plan of his has ever created any peace anywhere at all. While Bush has supervised the rescue of 2 whole nations from a state of terror and slavery and is likely to rescue a few nations more from such a state of living before he leaves office.
Nobody hates the guy that does it right more than the one who has spent his own life doing it wrong.
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chihawk
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| Posted: 26-May-2003 08:30 Post subject: RE: I'm not a Dub-ya fan... |
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Well, looks like y'all missed my point.
This was the point that was over the top:
"Jan O. Karlsson, the Swedish Minister for Migration, has got himself into trouble after calling the American President 'that fucking Texas geezer'"
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