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Vampire
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 Posted: 26-Mar-2004 03:21 Post subject: Farewell speech of President Aznar about March 11 |
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If you want to know what happened and why, listen to what this man has to say, before judging the Spanish people. Just remember, 9 million Spaniards voted to stand against terror, so don't paint all the Spanish with the same brush.
The US loses a friend and an ally, but the loss is ours. Spain has lost her best ruler in more than two centuries.
http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110004860
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Nightmare
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| Posted: 26-Mar-2004 04:43 Post subject: RE: Farewell speech of President Aznar about March 11 |
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His government did a good job in rounding up the ETA, I'll admit that. Sending troops to Iraq when 90% of the people were aginst it was Aznar's only error. Some were bound to hold him responsible for the Madrid bombings.
Police work is the key to stopping terrorism, not military action. Blowing shit up and killing people only drives more to join the kind of groups that claim to strike back. There can't be too many of the Basqe that think they're worse off now than under Franco. You chose a wise course of action pretty soon after his death.
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| Posted: 26-Mar-2004 08:23 Post subject: RE: Farewell speech of President Aznar about March 11 |
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On 2004-03-24 12:01, Jose Maria Aznar said:
Ours is a battle between freedom, democracy and civilization, on the one hand, and terror on the other. If on September 11 we were all American, on March 11 the whole world was Spanish. Let's maintain this spirit. We cannot just abandon this battle; it is everyone's fight. |
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Wow. If that doesn't say it, then nothing will I suppose.
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Gangrene
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| Posted: 26-Mar-2004 11:27 Post subject: RE: Farewell speech of President Aznar about March 11 |
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After the train bombings I paid attention to Spanish politics and was disappointed when the left won, not just because the US was losing an ally but because it sends a message to terrorists that their methods can influence elections in their favor. I think the Spanish have lost a good leader.
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Oafman
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| Posted: 26-Mar-2004 14:59 Post subject: RE: Farewell speech of President Aznar about March 11 |
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That bombing right before the Spanish election makes me worried about the terrorist groups thinking that sure a political ploy may also work in the US this coming November.
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Rarich
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| Posted: 26-Mar-2004 19:04 Post subject: RE: Farewell speech of President Aznar about March 11 |
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I believe it is a balance between blowing up terrorist basing areas/ bases and good police/ intelligence work. You cannot blow up everything that looks suspicious, but you must make sure the terrorist cannot get their "ultimate" weapons. The otherside is the constant bombs that are either planted or guided by various fanatics, The only way to stop those is for EVERYONE to do their part.
I feel sorry for the people of Spain, and some in the USA. They do not understand that it is far better to die free than be imprisioned by fear. I think the terrorists think they succeded in neutralized Spain with fear. Rather than a leader making an unpopular, if correct, decision and paying the political price for it. I hope that the Sapish Police were able to make critical arrests, otherwise there will be further retaliation as "punishment" for stepping out of line in the first place. The fanatic mind is not one of rationality or proportion, by definition.
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Gunslinger Patch
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| Posted: 27-Mar-2004 10:36 Post subject: RE: Farewell speech of President Aznar about March 11 |
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Police will always be vital in helping to fight terrorism, but they are only the last line of defense. When a crime occurs, the policeman is hardly ever there to see it happen. Policemen don't stop much of anything and you know it. The best they can do is find out who did it and sometimes arrest them.
The best place to fight terrorism is on the bastard's home ground, before they ever get to our borders. There have been no more attacks in the US because those scum are fighting and dying in Afghanistan and Iraq instead. That is what soldiers do.
[ This Message was edited by: Gunslinger Patch on 2004-03-27 10:47 ]
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| Posted: 27-Mar-2004 11:34 Post subject: RE: Farewell speech of President Aznar about March 11 |
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Anzar was going to lose in any case; it's unfortunate that the new leftist government didn't go to greater lengths to make clear that terrorism is unacceptable though. If they had done so a lot of this worry about "handing the terrorists a victory" could have been muted.
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