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Kraken
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AeroTech 2 Vessel Technical Readout
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Class/Model/Name: GN-1 Grippen
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3067
Vessel Type: Aerospace Fighter
Rules: Level 2, Standard design
Rules Set: AeroTech2
Mass: 50 tons
Power Plant: Warner 250 Fusion
Safe Thrust: 7
Maximum Thrust: 11
Armor Type: Ferro-fibrous Ferro-aluminum
Armament:
4 ChisComp 39 Medium Laser
1 ChisComp 32 Small Laser
2 Mydron Model D Autocannon/2
2 Holly LRM 5
Manufacturer: Odin Manufacturing
Location: Orestes / FRR (OM)
Communications System: ComStar Rover
Targeting & Tracking System: ComStarEquipment
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==Overview:==
New from Odin Manufacturing is this surprising little Aerofighter. Designated
the Grippen, it appears to be slated for joint use by both Comstar and the FRR
military.
The main armament is twin AC/2s backed by twin LRM 5s. This, in addition to
its speed and fuel capacity, is likely to ensure that the fighter will see use
as an interceptor even though it is entended as a multi-role unit. Backing it
up is four medium lasers (one mounted in the aft in the event of dog-fighting)
and a small. This load-out is sizeable for a fighter of its class, and will
allow it to engage in battle long after the ammunition is expended. Given the
amount of ammo carried, however, it is not likely to happen in most battles.
==Deployment==
Although the Grippen is still in the prototype stage, the Kell Hounds have
expressed interest in obtaining a few sample units for use as escorts.
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Class/Model/Name: GN-1 Grippen
Mass: 50 tons
Equipment: Mass
Power Plant: 250 Fusion 12.50
Thrust: Safe Thrust: 7
Maximum Thrust: 11
Structural Integrity: 7 .00
Total Heat Sinks: 10 Double .00
Fuel: 5.00
Cockpit & Attitude Thrusters: 3.00
Armor Type: Ferro-aluminum (104 total armor pts) 6.00
Standard Scale Armor Pts
Location: L / R
Nose: 35
Left/Right Wings: 26/26
Aft: 17
Weapons and Equipment Loc SRV MRV LRV ERV Heat Mass
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1 Medium Laser Nose 5 -- -- -- 3 1.00
1 Small Laser Nose 3 -- -- -- 1 .50
1 Medium Laser RW 5 -- -- -- 3 1.00
1 Medium Laser LW 5 -- -- -- 3 1.00
1 Autocannon/2 RW 2 2 2 -- 1 6.00
1 Autocannon/2 LW 2 2 2 -- 1 6.00
Ammo (AC/2) 45 --- 1.00
1 LRM 5 RW 3 3 3 -- 2 2.00
1 LRM 5 LW 3 3 3 -- 2 2.00
Ammo (LRM 5) 48 --- 2.00
1 Medium Laser Aft 5 -- -- -- 3 1.00
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TOTALS: Heat: 19 50.00
Tons Left: .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 2,803,854 C-Bills
Battle Value: 942
Cost per BV: 2,976.49
Weapon Value: 1,140 (Ratio = 1.21)
Damage Factors: SRV = 30; MRV = 7; LRV = 3; ERV = 0
BattleForce2: MP: 7, Armor/Structure: 3 / 0
Damage PB/M/L: 3/1/1, Overheat: 0
Class: FM; Point Value: 9
Specials: if
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Vagabond
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| Posted: 14-May-2004 20:08 Post subject: RE: GN-1 Grippen |
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can we get lb 2-x ac's on this?
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| Posted: 14-May-2004 20:14 Post subject: RE: GN-1 Grippen |
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On 2004-05-14 20:08, Vagabond wrote:
can we get lb 2-x ac's on this?
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I would rather see an Ultra 2 same number of projectiles double the damage.
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| Posted: 14-May-2004 20:41 Post subject: RE: GN-1 Grippen |
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This is just the concept one. If I hadn't have needed the DHS then I'd have left this as an L1 vehicle.
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| Posted: 14-May-2004 23:13 Post subject: RE: GN-1 Grippen |
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he would need to free up 2tons.
hmmm... that sounds evil, RAC/2s on an interceptor.
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| Posted: 14-May-2004 23:37 Post subject: RE: GN-1 Grippen |
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The Swedes write Gripen like this, one "p" only. 
A nice fighter for killing people from far away in any case. I can see it being used for such pleasant tasks as attacking dropping battlemechs or big ungainly targets like dropships and space installations.
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| Posted: 14-May-2004 23:52 Post subject: RE: GN-1 Grippen |
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The problem with RACs is that due to the high ammo consumption and the newness of the tech I would have to literally build a fighter around them; I cannot do a simple refit of this design and still keep in line with what I was going for (aside from the DHS, there is no L2 tech; it's all L1).
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| Posted: 14-May-2004 23:53 Post subject: RE: GN-1 Grippen |
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On 2004-05-14 23:37, Nightmare wrote:
The Swedes write Gripen like this, one "p" only.
A nice fighter for killing people from far away in any case. I can see it being used for such pleasant tasks as attacking dropping battlemechs or big ungainly targets like dropships and space installations.
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Note that these are normal ACs that I'm using. Imagine all the lovely fun you can have with armor-piercing ammo in a vaccuum..... 
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| Posted: 15-May-2004 09:44 Post subject: RE: GN-1 Grippen |
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On 2004-05-14 23:53, Kraken wrote:
Note that these are normal ACs that I'm using. Imagine all the lovely fun you can have with armor-piercing ammo in a vaccuum.....
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You, Sir, are twisted and evil! 
[ This Message was edited by: Nightmare on 2004-05-15 09:44 ]
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| Posted: 15-May-2004 12:21 Post subject: RE: GN-1 Grippen |
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On 2004-05-15 09:44, Nightmare wrote:
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On 2004-05-14 23:53, Kraken wrote:
Note that these are normal ACs that I'm using. Imagine all the lovely fun you can have with armor-piercing ammo in a vaccuum.....
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You, Sir, are twisted and evil!
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Why, thank you!
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| Posted: 15-May-2004 12:50 Post subject: RE: GN-1 Grippen |
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On 2004-05-14 23:53, Kraken wrote:
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On 2004-05-14 23:37, Nightmare wrote:
The Swedes write Gripen like this, one "p" only.
A nice fighter for killing people from far away in any case. I can see it being used for such pleasant tasks as attacking dropping battlemechs or big ungainly targets like dropships and space installations.
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Note that these are normal ACs that I'm using. Imagine all the lovely fun you can have with armor-piercing ammo in a vaccuum.....
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problem, and i really hate being the one to point it out. no where in any of the material does it state that AP Ammo causes a hull breach beyond normal rules. while it does make sense it is not supported by offical rulings so you default to offical rules present on the mater so while you can crit hunt all day with this you do not cause breaches any faster. if i ordsered mine, i would either use percission ammo or swap them out for lb 2-x acs.
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| Posted: 15-May-2004 14:17 Post subject: RE: GN-1 Grippen |
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On 2004-05-15 12:50, Vagabond wrote:
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On 2004-05-14 23:53, Kraken wrote:
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On 2004-05-14 23:37, Nightmare wrote:
The Swedes write Gripen like this, one "p" only.
A nice fighter for killing people from far away in any case. I can see it being used for such pleasant tasks as attacking dropping battlemechs or big ungainly targets like dropships and space installations.
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Note that these are normal ACs that I'm using. Imagine all the lovely fun you can have with armor-piercing ammo in a vaccuum.....
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problem, and i really hate being the one to point it out. no where in any of the material does it state that AP Ammo causes a hull breach beyond normal rules. while it does make sense it is not supported by offical rulings so you default to offical rules present on the mater so while you can crit hunt all day with this you do not cause breaches any faster. if i ordsered mine, i would either use percission ammo or swap them out for lb 2-x acs.
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Problem with the LBs is that I did not design this to use them. In order to make it as cheap as possible, I decided that DHS and ferro would be the only L2 items on the plane. The simplest thing to do to get the LBs on is to strip some of the lasers; but to do so you take away from its infighting firepower.
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| Posted: 15-May-2004 23:55 Post subject: RE: GN-1 Grippen |
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Problem with the LBs is that I did not design this to use them. In order to make it as cheap as possible, I decided that DHS and ferro would be the only L2 items on the plane. The simplest thing to do to get the LBs on is to strip some of the lasers; but to do so you take away from its infighting firepower.
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actually. lb 2-x acs are 6t just like there standard ac counter parts. so you wouldn't need to strip a thing.
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