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StarRaven
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 Posted: 05-Dec-2004 12:16 Post subject: What do you think about Victor? |
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I've always thought it strange that Victor's the main character of many of the novels, the hero as it were, but so many people hate him. I'm not sure I've heard from anyone who likes the guy.
So, tell us what you think. Do you like Victor Ian Steiner-Davion? Do you dislike him? Do you not care? Tell us why, if you can.
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mud
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| Posted: 05-Dec-2004 13:21 Post subject: RE: What do you think about Victor? |
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I think it's a shame the Jade Falcons didn't wipe him out when they had the chance
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| Posted: 05-Dec-2004 13:27 Post subject: RE: What do you think about Victor? |
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i like Victor...
more later.
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Wanallo
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| Posted: 05-Dec-2004 13:34 Post subject: RE: What do you think about Victor? |
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I like him, he is perhaps to good in the later books, which seem to depict the Lyrans as bad and Davion as good during the FedCom war.
Have to admit, I prefer Kai, although he is a bit too good, he's a more dynamic character particularly in clan trilogy.
I much prefer books with lesser known characters which adds to the suspence. Thats why i enjoyed the Mechwarrior series.
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Seraph
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| Posted: 05-Dec-2004 14:30 Post subject: RE: What do you think about Victor? |
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I think he was too short to pilot a Daishi. 
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Seraph
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| Posted: 05-Dec-2004 14:30 Post subject: RE: What do you think about Victor? |
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I think he was too short to pilot a Daishi.
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SaberDance
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| Posted: 05-Dec-2004 14:55 Post subject: RE: What do you think about Victor? |
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My experience being exclusively from the updates and TROs and the Battletech TV series:
He's a good guy. Theodore Kurita was better, but he was a good guy. I've infinitely more respect for his parents (Hans and Mellissa) and they are admitedly a tough act to follow.
Victor's best asset seemed to be the way he kept his parent's friends on his side. Even when his sister took over the FedCom, Victor managed to keep a lot of the inner circle intact. He does get better with age.
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Stinger
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| Posted: 05-Dec-2004 21:48 Post subject: RE: What do you think about Victor? |
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I have always liked Victor. sure he tries a little to hard, and makes some mistakes but for the most part his character has matured and grown in the universe as he should, (my opinion at least).
I am still trying to figure out how Sun Tzu was allowed to wage war and call it "unification" with out the other houses slapping him back into place. (But then most of house Laio's story line I have a problem with).
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Shadowking
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| Posted: 05-Dec-2004 21:51 Post subject: RE: What do you think about Victor? |
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| Well, he was the main character because most of those were Stackpole's books and then Coleman's. And Victor's position was of the centerpoint of most of the later story line of the entire BT universe, which make's him a character that's difficult NOT to have in the books, or at least referenced in some way.
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bladewind
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| Posted: 05-Dec-2004 22:01 Post subject: RE: What do you think about Victor? |
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| Victor gets better with age, a sign that he was improving. Something everyone can relate to.
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StarRaven
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| Posted: 05-Dec-2004 22:16 Post subject: RE: What do you think about Victor? |
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On 2004-12-05 13:21, mud wrote:
I think it's a shame the Jade Falcons didn't wipe him out when they had the chance
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This is the first and only thing I've agreed with here. Gauss round anyone?
Interesting. I guess I just figured that no one liked Victor.
I liked him at first, actually. But now I very much hate him. But like Vagabond, I'll have more on that later.
[ This Message was edited by: StarRaven on 2004-12-05 22:17 ]
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Sir Henry
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| Posted: 06-Dec-2004 07:08 Post subject: RE: What do you think about Victor? |
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I like being the Victor..... Does that count???
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Moonlapse Vertigo
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| Posted: 06-Dec-2004 14:23 Post subject: RE: What do you think about Victor? |
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| I don't hate him, but I take issue with how the Battletech storyline has revolved around him for a while now. Lead the inner sphere against Smoke Jaguar, precentor marshall of comstar, commander of the 10th Lyran Guards, fought the civil war, fought Word of Blake in the Jihad, and he's in the dark age. I think he's an interesting charecter, but that's just way to much Victor.
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Moonlapse Vertigo
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| Posted: 06-Dec-2004 14:24 Post subject: RE: What do you think about Victor? |
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On 2004-12-05 21:48, Stinger wrote:
I am still trying to figure out how Sun Tzu was allowed to wage war and call it "unification" with out the other houses slapping him back into place. (But then most of house Laio's story line I have a problem with).
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No less believable than half their realm being taken over with hardly in explanation how that could happen.
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Ruger
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| Posted: 06-Dec-2004 17:35 Post subject: RE: What do you think about Victor? |
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On 2004-12-06 14:23, Moonlapse Vertigo wrote:
I don't hate him, but I take issue with how the Battletech storyline has revolved around him for a while now. Lead the inner sphere against Smoke Jaguar, precentor marshall of comstar, commander of the 10th Lyran Guards, fought the civil war, fought Word of Blake in the Jihad, and he's in the dark age. I think he's an interesting charecter, but that's just way to much Victor.
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Be sure to check out his latest appearance in the MWDA novel, The Scorpion Jar...
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