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Warhammer: 3025 Freelance Captain, AFFC (Ret.)
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Posted: 21-Feb-2005 21:42 Post subject: Mosquito Escort Ship |
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Class/Model/Name: Mosquito
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3062
Vessel Type: Monitor (JumpShip Transportable)
Rules: Level 3, Custom design
Rules Set: AeroTech2
Mass: 80,000 tons
Hull: Saroyan Cavalier
Length: 509 meters
Power Plant: FireHeart Standard
Safe Thrust: 8
Maximum Thrust: 12
Armor Type: Durallex Nova Lamellor Ferro-carbide
Armament:
10 NL55
1 Barracuda
8 Buzzsaw AMS
1 Datacom 50 Guardian ECM
24 M-7 Gauss Rifle
64 Magna Sunspot ER PPC
2 NL35
Manufacturer: Jalastar Aerospace
Location: Panpour
Communications System: Datacom 50 w. Guardian ECM
Targeting & Tracking System: Alexis Photon Targeting Acquisition System
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==Overview:==
The Mosquito class escort vessel is intended to protect vulnerable dropships
and transports from enemy attack during a planetary assault.
==Capabilities:==
Carrying an engine intended for ships twice its' size, the Mosquito is one of
the fastest capital-scale ships in existence. The ship's speed, relative small
size, and Guardian ECM system combine to make the ship extremely difficult for
enemy gunners to hit.
The ship's primary firepower is the array of naval-scale lasers, as well as a
capital-scale missile system. Anti-fighter capability is not neglected, with
the craft mounting over 20 Gauss Rifles, and 60 Extended-Range Particle
Cannons.
The ship is fitted with almost over-large fuel and supply bays, allowing the
craft to be used on extended deployments while lessening the strain on the
fleet supply stores.
==Deployment==
The Mosquito is deployed in very large numbers, with every transport fleet and
assault squadron that can support them.
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Class/Model/Name: Mosquito
Mass: 80,000 tons
Equipment: Mass
Power Plant, Drive & Control: 38,400.00
Thrust: Safe Thrust: 8
Maximum Thrust: 12
Structural Integrity: 244 19,520.00
Total Heat Sinks: 978 Double 656.00
Fuel & Fuel Pumps: 3,264.00
Bridge, Controls, Radar, Computer & Attitude Thrusters: 200.00
Fire Control Computers: .00
Food & Water: (1097 days supply) 532.00
Armor Type: Lamellor Ferro-carbide (690 total armor pts) 390.00
Capital Scale Armor Pts
Location: L / R
Fore: 126
Fore-Left/Right: 115/115
Aft-Left/Right: 115/115
Aft: 104
DropShip Capacity: 1 Docking Hardpoints 1,000.00
Grav Deck #1: (98-meter diameter) 50.00
Life Boats: 9 (7 tons each) 63.00
Escape Pods: 9 (7 tons each) 63.00
Crew and Passengers:
20 Officers (17 minimum) 200.00
42 Crew (41 minimum) 294.00
35 Gunners (30 minimum) 245.00
Weapons and Equipment Loc SRV MRV LRV ERV Heat Mass
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2 NL55 Nose 11 11 11 11 170 2,200.00
2 NL55 Nose 11 11 11 11 170 2,200.00
1 Barracuda(30 msls) Nose 2 2 2 2 10 990.00
1 AMS(240 rounds) Nose -- -- -- -- 1 20.50
1 Guardian ECM Nose -- -- -- -- 0 1.50
4 Gauss Rifle(160 rounds) Nose 6(60) 6(60) 6(60) -- 4 80.00
10 ER PPC Nose 10(100)10(100)10(100) -- 150 70.00
1 NL55 FL/R 6 6 6 6 170 2,200.00
1 AMS(240 rounds) FL/R -- -- -- -- 2 41.00
3 Gauss Rifle(160 rounds) FL/R 5(45) 5(45) 5(45) -- 6 130.00
8 ER PPC FL/R 8(80) 8(80) 8(80) -- 240 112.00
1 NL55 L/RBS 6 6 6 6 170 2,200.00
1 AMS(240 rounds) L/RBS -- -- -- -- 2 41.00
3 Gauss Rifle(160 rounds) L/RBS 5(45) 5(45) 5(45) -- 6 130.00
8 ER PPC L/RBS 8(80) 8(80) 8(80) -- 240 112.00
1 NL55 AL/R 6 6 6 6 170 2,200.00
1 AMS(240 rounds) AL/R -- -- -- -- 2 41.00
3 Gauss Rifle(160 rounds) AL/R 5(45) 5(45) 5(45) -- 6 130.00
8 ER PPC AL/R 8(80) 8(80) 8(80) -- 240 112.00
1 AMS(240 rounds) Aft -- -- -- -- 1 20.50
2 Gauss Rifle(160 rounds) Aft 3(30) 3(30) 3(30) -- 2 50.00
6 ER PPC Aft 6(60) 6(60) 6(60) -- 90 42.00
2 NL35 Aft 7 7 7 -- 104 1,400.00
1 Lot Spare Parts (0.75%) 599.50
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TOTALS: Heat: 1,956 80,000.00
Tons Left: .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 326,863,600 C-Bills
Battle Value: 75,498
Cost per BV: 4,329.43
Weapon Value: 48,558 (Ratio = .64)
Damage Factors: SRV = 1,527; MRV = 1,311; LRV = 744; ERV = 190
Maintenance: Maintenance Point Value (MPV) = 435,082
(196,390 Structure, 196,850 Life Support, 41,842 Weapons)
Support Points (SP) = 119,176 (27% of MPV)
BattleForce2: Not applicable
[ This Message was edited by: Warhammer: 3025 on 2005-02-26 23:41 ] _________________ Evil is like a bowl of oranges. Only one, instead, is an orange of DOOM. That orange has a fate to rule over the other oranges with an iron fist. That orange is me.
Because sometimes, there are many guards in the castle.
Ya Rl'yeh!
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Warhammer: 3025 Freelance Captain, AFFC (Ret.)
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Posted: 22-Feb-2005 21:26 Post subject: RE: Mosquito Escort Ship |
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This what I consider to be my best design ever. Probably because it's so powerful, while remaining so cheap. _________________ Evil is like a bowl of oranges. Only one, instead, is an orange of DOOM. That orange has a fate to rule over the other oranges with an iron fist. That orange is me.
Because sometimes, there are many guards in the castle.
Ya Rl'yeh!
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Warhammer: 3025 Freelance Captain, AFFC (Ret.)
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Posted: 23-Feb-2005 23:59 Post subject: RE: Mosquito Escort Ship |
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No praise of my /\/\4|) shipmaking skillz?
No jabs at my pitiful attempts at innovation?
You guys are really slacking off here
[ This Message was edited by: Warhammer: 3025 on 2005-02-24 00:00 ] _________________ Evil is like a bowl of oranges. Only one, instead, is an orange of DOOM. That orange has a fate to rule over the other oranges with an iron fist. That orange is me.
Because sometimes, there are many guards in the castle.
Ya Rl'yeh!
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StarRaven Federated Suns Leftenant General
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Posted: 24-Feb-2005 15:25 Post subject: RE: Mosquito Escort Ship |
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I''ll give you something more detailed in a bit - I've got a class in three minutes. But, if you're doing level 3 anyways, why not use LAMS?
_________________ "Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close semblance to the first."
- Attributed to General Aleksandr Kerensky
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Warhammer: 3025 Freelance Captain, AFFC (Ret.)
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Posted: 24-Feb-2005 15:58 Post subject: RE: Mosquito Escort Ship |
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Several things:
1) Heat. The Laser AMS generates 12 points of heat when fired (according to HM-Aero, what other effects happen upon firing, I don't know).
2) Cost. A single LAMS system costs about 230,000 C-Bills. A standard AMS costs 100,000 +ammo.
3) Effective Tonnage. According to HM-Aero, a LAMS has an effective tonnage of 13.5 tons (1.5+12+0) and a standard AMS has a tonnage of 2.5 (.5+1+1).
4) Real-Life Considerations. In real life, a ballistic system would be much easier to maintain than a complex laser weapon. The only truly complex parts of the AMS are the automation and fire-control circuitry. The entirety of the LAMS is a series of circuits, galvanizing coils, focusing crystals, etc.
[ This Message was edited by: Warhammer: 3025 on 2005-02-24 18:40 ] _________________ Evil is like a bowl of oranges. Only one, instead, is an orange of DOOM. That orange has a fate to rule over the other oranges with an iron fist. That orange is me.
Because sometimes, there are many guards in the castle.
Ya Rl'yeh!
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Vagabond Mercenary Mr. Referee
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Posted: 24-Feb-2005 18:29 Post subject: RE: Mosquito Escort Ship |
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On 2005-02-23 23:59, Warhammer: 3025 wrote:
No praise of my /\/\4|) shipmaking skillz?
No jabs at my pitiful attempts at innovation?
You guys are really slacking off here
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Actually, it is more likely they are ignoring your designs for abit. I find that this group withdraws from commenting when barraged by more then a few new design posts everyday.
You have basicly flooded the forum and will get few responces as people take a break from reading your posts.
_________________ one must work hard to cultivate the mind and body. and one must always cultivate the mind.
//^(^_^)^\\
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Warhammer: 3025 Freelance Captain, AFFC (Ret.)
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Posted: 24-Feb-2005 18:38 Post subject: RE: Mosquito Escort Ship |
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Hmm. That actually explains a lot. Maybe I'll take a few days break between posting designs.
But that don't mean I'll take breaks between making them!
Thanks, Mister Vagabond! _________________ Evil is like a bowl of oranges. Only one, instead, is an orange of DOOM. That orange has a fate to rule over the other oranges with an iron fist. That orange is me.
Because sometimes, there are many guards in the castle.
Ya Rl'yeh!
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Vagabond Mercenary Mr. Referee
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Posted: 24-Feb-2005 18:47 Post subject: RE: Mosquito Escort Ship |
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On 2005-02-24 15:58, Warhammer: 3025 wrote:
Several things:
1) Heat. The Laser AMS generates 12 points of heat when fired (according to HM-Aero, what other effects happen upon firing, I don't know).
2) Cost. A single LAMS system costs about 230,000 C-Bills. A standard AMS costs 100,000 +ammo.
3) Effective Tonnage. According to HM-Aero, a LAMS has an effective tonnage of 13.5 tons (1.5+12+0) and a standard AMS has a tonnage of 2.5 (.5+1+1).
4) Real-Life Considerations. In real life, a ballistic system would be much easier to maintain than a complex laser weapon. The only truly complex parts of the AMS are the automation and fire-control circuitry. The entirety of the LAMS is a series of circuits, galvanizing coils, focusing crystals, etc.
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Standard IS AMS destroys 1d6 missiles and uses 2d6 shots of ammunition.
LAMS destroy 2d6 missiles and do equal heat. For vehicles and most non-mech units the ability to disipate all the heat is needed. This is why the max heat of 12 is listed in all HM Programs.
_________________ one must work hard to cultivate the mind and body. and one must always cultivate the mind.
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Vagabond Mercenary Mr. Referee
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Posted: 24-Feb-2005 18:48 Post subject: RE: Mosquito Escort Ship |
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On 2005-02-24 18:38, Warhammer: 3025 wrote:
Hmm. That actually explains a lot. Maybe I'll take a few days break between posting designs.
But that don't mean I'll take breaks between making them!
Thanks, Mister Vagabond!
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I do the same thing. Took abit to learn to do that though.
_________________ one must work hard to cultivate the mind and body. and one must always cultivate the mind.
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Motown Scrapper Clan Ice Hellions Galaxy Commander
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Posted: 26-Feb-2005 22:11 Post subject: RE: Mosquito Escort Ship |
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Another thing that would help is if you would use brackets that would make the format cleaner and easier to read for old folk like me with tired eyes
[ This Message was edited by: Motown Scrapper on 2005-02-26 22:14 ] _________________ Having more fun than a human being should be allowed to have-Rush Limbaugh www.rushlimbaugh.com
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Warhammer: 3025 Freelance Captain, AFFC (Ret.)
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Posted: 26-Feb-2005 22:26 Post subject: RE: Mosquito Escort Ship |
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You mean like this?
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Class/Model/Name: Mosquito
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3062
Vessel Type: Monitor (JumpShip Transportable)
Rules: Level 3, Custom design
Rules Set: AeroTech2
Mass: 80,000 tons
Hull: Saroyan Cavalier
Length: 509 meters
Power Plant: FireHeart Standard
Safe Thrust: 8
Maximum Thrust: 12
Armor Type: Durallex Nova Lamellor Ferro-carbide
Armament:
10 NL55
1 Barracuda
8 Buzzsaw AMS
1 Datacom 50 Guardian ECM
24 M-7 Gauss Rifle
64 Magna Sunspot ER PPC
2 NL35
Manufacturer: Jalastar Aerospace
Location: Panpour
Communications System: Datacom 50 w. Guardian ECM
Targeting & Tracking System: Alexis Photon Targeting Acquisition System
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
==Overview:==
The Mosquito class escort vessel is intended to protect vulnerable dropships
and transports from enemy attack during a planetary assault.
==Capabilities:==
Carrying an engine intended for ships twice its' size, the Mosquito is one of
the fastest capital-scale ships in existence. The ship's speed, relative small
size, and Guardian ECM system combine to make the ship extremely difficult for
enemy gunners to hit.
The ship's primary firepower is the array of naval-scale lasers, as well as a
capital-scale missile system. Anti-fighter capability is not neglected, with
the craft mounting over 20 Gauss Rifles, and 60 Extended-Range Particle
Cannons.
The ship is fitted with almost over-large fuel and supply bays, allowing the
craft to be used on extended deployments while lessening the strain on the
fleet supply stores.
==Deployment==
The Mosquito is deployed in very large numbers, with every transport fleet and
assault squadron that can support them.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Class/Model/Name: Mosquito
Mass: 80,000 tons
Equipment: Mass
Power Plant, Drive & Control: 38,400.00
Thrust: Safe Thrust: 8
Maximum Thrust: 12
Structural Integrity: 244 19,520.00
Total Heat Sinks: 978 Double 656.00
Fuel & Fuel Pumps: 3,264.00
Bridge, Controls, Radar, Computer & Attitude Thrusters: 200.00
Fire Control Computers: .00
Food & Water: (1097 days supply) 532.00
Armor Type: Lamellor Ferro-carbide (690 total armor pts) 390.00
Capital Scale Armor Pts
Location: L / R
Fore: 126
Fore-Left/Right: 115/115
Aft-Left/Right: 115/115
Aft: 104
DropShip Capacity: 1 Docking Hardpoints 1,000.00
Grav Deck #1: (98-meter diameter) 50.00
Life Boats: 9 (7 tons each) 63.00
Escape Pods: 9 (7 tons each) 63.00
Crew and Passengers:
20 Officers (17 minimum) 200.00
42 Crew (41 minimum) 294.00
35 Gunners (30 minimum) 245.00
Weapons and Equipment Loc SRV MRV LRV ERV Heat Mass
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2 NL55 Nose 11 11 11 11 170 2,200.00
2 NL55 Nose 11 11 11 11 170 2,200.00
1 Barracuda(30 msls) Nose 2 2 2 2 10 990.00
1 AMS(240 rounds) Nose -- -- -- -- 1 20.50
1 Guardian ECM Nose -- -- -- -- 0 1.50
4 Gauss Rifle(160 rounds) Nose 6(60) 6(60) 6(60) -- 4 80.00
10 ER PPC Nose 10(100)10(100)10(100) -- 150 70.00
1 NL55 FL/R 6 6 6 6 170 2,200.00
1 AMS(240 rounds) FL/R -- -- -- -- 2 41.00
3 Gauss Rifle(160 rounds) FL/R 5(45) 5(45) 5(45) -- 6 130.00
8 ER PPC FL/R 8(80) 8(80) 8(80) -- 240 112.00
1 NL55 L/RBS 6 6 6 6 170 2,200.00
1 AMS(240 rounds) L/RBS -- -- -- -- 2 41.00
3 Gauss Rifle(160 rounds) L/RBS 5(45) 5(45) 5(45) -- 6 130.00
8 ER PPC L/RBS 8(80) 8(80) 8(80) -- 240 112.00
1 NL55 AL/R 6 6 6 6 170 2,200.00
1 AMS(240 rounds) AL/R -- -- -- -- 2 41.00
3 Gauss Rifle(160 rounds) AL/R 5(45) 5(45) 5(45) -- 6 130.00
8 ER PPC AL/R 8(80) 8(80) 8(80) -- 240 112.00
1 AMS(240 rounds) Aft -- -- -- -- 1 20.50
2 Gauss Rifle(160 rounds) Aft 3(30) 3(30) 3(30) -- 2 50.00
6 ER PPC Aft 6(60) 6(60) 6(60) -- 90 42.00
2 NL35 Aft 7 7 7 -- 104 1,400.00
1 Lot Spare Parts (0.75%) 599.50
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TOTALS: Heat: 1,956 80,000.00
Tons Left: .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 326,863,600 C-Bills
Battle Value: 75,498
Cost per BV: 4,329.43
Weapon Value: 48,558 (Ratio = .64)
Damage Factors: SRV = 1,527; MRV = 1,311; LRV = 744; ERV = 190
Maintenance: Maintenance Point Value (MPV) = 435,082
(196,390 Structure, 196,850 Life Support, 41,842 Weapons)
Support Points (SP) = 119,176 (27% of MPV)
BattleForce2: Not applicable
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[ This Message was edited by: Warhammer: 3025 on 2005-02-27 17:46 ] _________________ Evil is like a bowl of oranges. Only one, instead, is an orange of DOOM. That orange has a fate to rule over the other oranges with an iron fist. That orange is me.
Because sometimes, there are many guards in the castle.
Ya Rl'yeh!
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Motown Scrapper Clan Ice Hellions Galaxy Commander
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Posted: 26-Feb-2005 23:27 Post subject: RE: Mosquito Escort Ship |
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Drop the code I used that only so you could see the otherwise it does not show up ...but you have the right idea
_________________ Having more fun than a human being should be allowed to have-Rush Limbaugh www.rushlimbaugh.com
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StarRaven Federated Suns Leftenant General
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Posted: 27-Feb-2005 13:22 Post subject: RE: Mosquito Escort Ship |
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I like it. Fast, powerful, well armored for its size (I'm an armor fanatic), and pretty cheap too. The only disadvantage is that you'd need to leave it in one system, or have some JumpShip cart it around.
Even several of these won't do too well against heavier WarShips, but they'll rule against DropShips for sure.
And Motown's suggesting that you use < pre >, not < code > (without spaces, of course). Code brings me pain, and it makes things very hard to read. Of course, you already seem to have edited it...
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- Attributed to General Aleksandr Kerensky
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Warhammer: 3025 Freelance Captain, AFFC (Ret.)
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Posted: 27-Feb-2005 17:48 Post subject: RE: Mosquito Escort Ship |
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On 2005-02-27 13:22, StarRaven wrote:
I like it. Fast, powerful, well armored for its size (I'm an armor fanatic), and pretty cheap too. The only disadvantage is that you'd need to leave it in one system, or have some JumpShip cart it around.
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That's the idea. They're transported along with the invasion fleet, and clear the way for friendly dropships. _________________ Evil is like a bowl of oranges. Only one, instead, is an orange of DOOM. That orange has a fate to rule over the other oranges with an iron fist. That orange is me.
Because sometimes, there are many guards in the castle.
Ya Rl'yeh!
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Motown Scrapper Clan Ice Hellions Galaxy Commander
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Posted: 27-Feb-2005 21:23 Post subject: RE: Mosquito Escort Ship |
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This would make a decent System dfence vessel you have good armour and the armament is decent I might want to spread your front weapons out a bit move two of the NL55s from the nose to the frront corner arcs.That would give you 2 in each arc and a better spread at your speed you are likely to be blowing past an enemy at high speed
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