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 Posted: 30-Apr-2002 23:35 Post subject: Original BD Crossbow from Battletechnology Mag |
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Type/Model: Crossbow CRS-BB2
Tech: Inner Sphere / 2750
Config: Biped BattleMech
Rules: Level 1, Standard design
Mass: 90 tons
Chassis: Star League XT Standard
Power Plant: 270 GM 270 Fusion
Walking Speed: 32.4 km/h
Maximum Speed: 54.0 km/h
Jump Jets: 3 HildCo Model 12 Standard Jump Jets
Jump Capacity: 90 meters
Armor Type: Valiant Lamellor Standard
Armament:
2 Delta Dart LRM 15s
1 PPC
1 SRM 6
1 Medium Laser
Manufacturer: Kallon Ltd
Location: Pandora
Communications System: Ferret High Freak 3B
Targeting & Tracking System: Ferret High Tech
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Type/Model: Crossbow CRS-BB2
Mass: 90 tons
Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 138 pts Standard 0 9.00
Engine: 270 6 14.50
Walking MP: 3
Running MP: 5
Jumping MP: 3
Heat Sinks: 19 Single 9 9.00
(Heat Sink Loc: 1 HD, 1 LA, 1 RA, 1 LT, 1 RT, 2 LL, 2 RL)
Gyro: 4 3.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors: 5 3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H R: Sh+UA+LA+H 16 .00
Armor Factor: 264 pts Standard 0 16.50
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 9
Center Torso: 29 45
Center Torso (Rear): 10
L/R Side Torso: 19 27/27
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 9/9
L/R Arm: 15 28/28
L/R Leg: 19 36/36
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
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1 LRM 15 RA 5 24 6 10.00
(Ammo Locations: 1 LA, 1 RA, 1 LT)
1 LRM 15 LA 5 3 7.00
1 PPC RT 10 3 7.00
1 SRM 6 LT 4 15 3 4.00
(Ammo Locations: 1 LT)
1 Medium Laser CT 3 1 1.00
3 Standard Jump Jets: 3 6.00
(Jump Jet Loc: 1 LT, 1 RT, 1 CT)
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TOTALS: 27 59 90.00
Crits & Tons Left: 19 .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 8,364,560 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,512
Cost per BV: 5,532.12
Weapon Value: 1,636 / 1,636 (Ratio = 1.08 / 1.08)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 16; MRDmg = 19; LRDmg = 10
BattleForce2: MP: 3J, Armor/Structure: 7/7
Damage PB/M/L: 3/3/2, Overheat: 2
Class: MA; Point Value: 15
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jymset
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| Posted: 03-May-2002 03:13 Post subject: Original BD Crossbow from Battletechnology Mag |
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Thanks! Do you know where the photocopied sheet originated from? Maybe it's from Stardate? As far as I know, BattleTechnology never published this one.
Regards, jymset
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| Posted: 04-May-2002 11:10 Post subject: Original BD Crossbow from Battletechnology Mag |
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This machine should come as a suprise to some of my opponents.
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Karagin
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| Posted: 06-May-2002 12:39 Post subject: Original BD Crossbow from Battletechnology Mag |
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On 2002-05-03 03:13, jymset wrote:
Thanks! Do you know where the photocopied sheet originated from? Maybe it's from Stardate? As far as I know, BattleTechnology never published this one.
Regards, jymset
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It could be StarDate, not sure the format is same one BT used. I will keep an eye out...
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Jade_Dragon
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| Posted: 08-May-2002 08:14 Post subject: Original BD Crossbow from Battletechnology Mag |
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I love this 'Mech. I worked up a copy for MegaMek and have used it the last couple of matches I have been in. It kicks butt!
I was having a little bit of an overheating problem so decided to trade out the PPC for a Larege Laser and a pair of Medium Laserss. You also could do the PPC for an Laser Laser, Medium Laser and Heat Sink.
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Karagin
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| Posted: 01-Jan-2007 19:44 Post subject: RE: Original BD Crossbow from Battletechnology Mag |
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Another shot for those who missed this one.
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| Posted: 27-Nov-2007 05:36 Post subject: RE: Original BD Crossbow from Battletechnology Mag |
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Yeah, thanks for that.
So allow me to rephrase my original reply above:
From which obscure source did you get that? Are the more goodies hidden there?
Because I gather it is not a home-brew, right? It ain't StarDate or Battletechnology. Don't think it's Space Gamer, either, but I'm not 100% sure on that one....
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Karagin
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| Posted: 27-Nov-2007 17:35 Post subject: RE: Original BD Crossbow from Battletechnology Mag |
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The person who gave me the photocopy of the stats said it was from StarDate. So I am going with that as the source.
It would be nice if Randall or someone would give a listing of the older mechs, ie the old ones that came out between the 1st ED of the game aka Battledroids and the 2nd ED aka Battletech box sets, that listed who made them, when and what they appeared in. Given that now some of these have shown up in the Tech Manual in the mech listings....
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| Posted: 28-Nov-2007 10:38 Post subject: RE: Original BD Crossbow from Battletechnology Mag |
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Thanks for the info - I am fairly confident in falsifying the StarDate claim - I have almost all of them and know what's in the one that I'm missing....
But I'd love to be proven wrong. Was there a write-up or pic included with those specs?
As far as Battledroids are concerned, I only know of the 2 (Gladiator and Battleax - 3 if the Falcon counts) in Battletechnology and the Cestus in Space Gamer.
I'd too love a listing of the old, old stuff. Apparently there were other configs for some old classics as well (I know this for sure about the Shadow Hawk and Spider - which isn't even BD era).
As far as the listings in TW, I think they are the harbingers of a new read-out. Looking at the track record, I highly doubt that they will dig out old specs for them, though. Much rather, I suspect that new ones will get made up.
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On heat, 3025 style:
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| Posted: 28-Nov-2007 19:23 Post subject: RE: Original BD Crossbow from Battletechnology Mag |
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The Firebee was one, the Behemoth along with the Vulcan, no not the one from the TR3025, this was more of a different take on the Rifleman mech.
As for the Crossbow, no write up just stats, either way the mech is one of the mysteries of the game and one that could be explained away or dealt with in away to keep the older fans excited, since it's something that has been there from the begining...same for some of the other mechs that have been mentioned and nothing really done with them.
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| Posted: 03-Dec-2007 13:11 Post subject: Original BD Crossbow from Battletechnology Mag |
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| A jumping 90 tonner with good damage... I like it. The heat scale would be a fun challenge.
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| Posted: 14-Dec-2008 06:22 Post subject: RE: Original BD Crossbow from Battletechnology Mag |
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Arise, another dead thread! This is what happens when I go through my old posts - I was looking for another thing but I happen to resurrect this one, a thread which was first resurrected in 07 - 5 years after originally posted.
Anyways, I would love it if Karagin could give us some more details on the design above (once he returns).
I can now definitely confirm that it was not printed in StarDate or BattleTechnology. I also think it is not out of Space Gamer, Challenge, White Wolf, etc. "Legion of Phoenix" had one in their online-TRO, but that was a lvl2 variation of the Crusader, if anything. So, once again: what is the source of the above?
We can also now confirm that TPTB of BattleTech have reintroduced a whole bunch of old BattleDroids in TRO: 3075 - the Battleax and Gladiator were both based on their BattleTechnology originals; the Crossbow and Firebee were added and given official stats (for the first time?).
There still is nothing for some other BattleDroids - the Behemoth, the Hornet, and the Vulcan remain completely unstatted. Or have you guys got anything on them?
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