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Delta Lyran Alliance Leutnant
Joined: 11-Dec-2004 00:00 Posts: 635
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Posted: 08-Aug-2005 17:33 Post subject: AS10-D Atlas |
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Ok, heres at an Atlas modification.
BattleMech Technical Readout
Type/Model: Atlas AS10-D
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3060
Config: Biped BattleMech
Rules: Level 3, Standard design
Mass: 100 tons
Chassis: Foundation Type 10X Standard
Power Plant: 300 Vlar Fusion
Walking Speed: 32.4 km/h
Maximum Speed: 54.0 km/h
Jump Jets: None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type: Durallex Heavy Special Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
1 Gauss Rifle
2 PPCs
1 LRM 20 w/ Artemis IV
1 Medium Laser
Manufacturer: Yori 'Mech Works, Defiance Industries, Independence Weaponry
Location: Al'Nair, Hesperus II, Quentin
Communications System: Army Comm. Class 5
Targeting & Tracking System: Army Corporation Type 29K /w Artemis IV
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==Overview:==
The AS10-D Atlas is a modification on the old Atlas, using some recovered
technology and adding 2 more large guns to the already fearsome profile.
==Capabilities:==
This Atlas carries 2 PPCs, a Gauss, and a LRM-20 with a Artermis IV missile
tracking system, providing it with a massive punch. It also carries 12 double
heatsinks to cool off the heat created from firing the PPCs and LRM-20 (as the
Gauss produces nearly no heat).
Its only backup weapon is a medium laser, mounted in the center torso.
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Type/Model: Atlas AS10-D
Mass: 100 tons
Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 152 pts Standard 0 10.00
Engine: 300 Fusion 6 19.00
Walking MP: 3
Running MP: 5
Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: 12 Double [24] 0 2.00
Gyro: 4 3.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors: 5 3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H R: Sh+UA+LA+H 16 .00
Armor Factor: 304 pts Ferro-Fibrous 14 17.00
(Armor Crit Loc: 1 HD, 4 LA, 2 LT, 2 RT, 1 CT, 2 LL, 2 RL)
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 9
Center Torso: 31 47
Center Torso (Rear): 14
L/R Side Torso: 21 32/32
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 10/10
L/R Arm: 17 34/34
L/R Leg: 21 41/41
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
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1 Gauss Rifle RA 1 24 10 18.00
(Ammo Locations: 1 RA, 2 RT)
1 PPC LA 10 3 7.00
1 PPC RT 10 3 7.00
1 LRM 20 w/ Artemis IV LT 6 12 8 13.00
(Ammo Locations: 2 LT)
1 Medium Laser CT 3 1 1.00
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TOTALS: 30 70 100.00
Crits & Tons Left: 8 .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 10,776,000 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,960
Cost per BV: 5,497.96
Weapon Value: 3,136 / 3,014 (Ratio = 1.60 / 1.54)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 25; MRDmg = 31; LRDmg = 17
BattleForce2: MP: 3, Armor/Structure: 8/8
Damage PB/M/L: 5/5/4, Overheat: 1
Class: MA; Point Value: 20
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bladewind Free Rasalhague Republic Major General
Joined: 02-Oct-2004 00:00 Posts: 1054 Location: Singapore
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Posted: 09-Aug-2005 02:25 Post subject: RE: AS10-D Atlas |
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Ok at least this Atlas retains the LRM20. But with 4 weapons having minimum ranges and only 1 medium laser for backup is not a good idea.
Commendable effort but not quite there. Try swapping the PPCs for twin ERLLs instead. Twin ERLs do not have mins which is a good thing.
The freed tonnage can give you 2 more DHS, 2 medium rearward facing lasers which is important for Dracs facing clanners while providing CASE protection for LRM20 and GR.
If cost is an issue, this mod will only cost at most 10,960,000 c-bills which is still under 11 mil and you have the same long range fire power as the AS7-K which is double the cost and even less heat efficiency.
[ This Message was edited by: bladewind on 2005-08-09 02:42 ]
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Rudel Gurken Allisters Light Thunder Major
Joined: 15-Jun-2005 00:00 Posts: 1456 Location: Germany
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Posted: 09-Aug-2005 03:41 Post subject: RE: AS10-D Atlas |
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I like this! But putting the GR into the torso and fitting a PPC in each arm would resemble the original look more! (Odd sentence but I can´t say it a better way! Sorry for my english!)
Almost all weapons have minimum range but if you try to stay in relative open terrain you can pound an enemy as he closes. If he is there: fire the GR (only min range of 2) and the Medium Laser and forget about the PPC´s! Try to punch instead to do 2 x 10 damage!
_________________ Reality is where the Pizza-man comes from!'Gucken, petzen, verpissen!' (Look at it, squeal it, get the hell away from it!) – Motto of the recon troops'Artillery doesn´t know friend or foe! They only know worthwhile targets!‘ – Kuritan Infantrist
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Rudel Gurken Allisters Light Thunder Major
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Posted: 09-Aug-2005 04:48 Post subject: RE: AS10-D Atlas |
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Another idea!
Put the Medium Laser in the head to resemble a cigar between the Atlas´s "teeth"!
Think it would look cool!
_________________ Reality is where the Pizza-man comes from!'Gucken, petzen, verpissen!' (Look at it, squeal it, get the hell away from it!) – Motto of the recon troops'Artillery doesn´t know friend or foe! They only know worthwhile targets!‘ – Kuritan Infantrist
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Delta Lyran Alliance Leutnant
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Posted: 09-Aug-2005 08:20 Post subject: RE: AS10-D Atlas |
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Im so used to the ERPPC I'd forgotten about the minimums. Heres the new version.
BattleMech Technical Readout
Type/Model: Atlas AS10-D
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3060
Config: Biped BattleMech
Rules: Level 3, Standard design
Mass: 100 tons
Chassis: Foundation Type 10X Standard
Power Plant: 300 Vlar Fusion
Walking Speed: 32.4 km/h
Maximum Speed: 54.0 km/h
Jump Jets: None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type: Durallex Heavy Special Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
1 Gauss Rifle
2 ER Large Lasers
1 LRM 20 w/ Artemis IV
3 Medium Lasers
Manufacturer: Yori 'Mech Works
Location: Al'Nair
Communications System: Army Comm. Class 5
Targeting & Tracking System: Army Corporation Type 29K /w Artemis IV
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==Overview:==
The AS10-D Atlas is a modification on the old Atlas, using some recovered
technology and adding 2 more large guns to the already fearsome profile.
==Capabilities:==
This Atlas carries ER Large Lasers, a Gauss, and a LRM-20 with a Artermis IV
missile tracking system, providing it with a massive punch. It also carries 14
double heatsinks to cool off the heat created from firing the ERs and LRM-20
(as the Gauss produces nearly no heat).
Its backup consists of a pair of rear mounted Mediums, plus a "Medium Cigar"
in the head.
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Type/Model: Atlas AS10-D
Mass: 100 tons
Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 152 pts Standard 0 10.00
Engine: 300 Fusion 6 19.00
Walking MP: 3
Running MP: 5
Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: 14 Double [28] 6 4.00
(Heat Sink Loc: 2 RT)
Gyro: 4 3.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors: 5 3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H R: Sh+UA+LA+H 16 .00
Armor Factor: 304 pts Ferro-Fibrous 14 17.00
(Armor Crit Loc: 4 LA, 4 LT, 2 RT, 2 LL, 2 RL)
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 9
Center Torso: 31 47
Center Torso (Rear): 14
L/R Side Torso: 21 32/32
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 10/10
L/R Arm: 17 34/34
L/R Leg: 21 41/41
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
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1 Gauss Rifle RA 1 24 10 18.00
(Ammo Locations: 1 RA, 2 RT)
1 ER Large Laser LA 12 2 5.00
1 ER Large Laser RT 12 2 5.00
1 LRM 20 w/ Artemis IV LT 6 12 8 13.00
(Ammo Locations: 2 LT)
2 Medium Lasers CT(R) 6 2 2.00
1 Medium Laser HD 3 1 1.00
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TOTALS: 40 76 100.00
Crits & Tons Left: 2 .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 10,960,000 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,993
Cost per BV: 5,499.25
Weapon Value: 3,091 / 2,984 (Ratio = 1.55 / 1.50)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 30; MRDmg = 30; LRDmg = 17
BattleForce2: MP: 3, Armor/Structure: 8/8
Damage PB/M/L: 5/5/4, Overheat: 1
Class: MA; Point Value: 20
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Rudel Gurken Allisters Light Thunder Major
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Posted: 09-Aug-2005 08:34 Post subject: RE: AS10-D Atlas |
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Thanks for using my idea
_________________ Reality is where the Pizza-man comes from!'Gucken, petzen, verpissen!' (Look at it, squeal it, get the hell away from it!) – Motto of the recon troops'Artillery doesn´t know friend or foe! They only know worthwhile targets!‘ – Kuritan Infantrist
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Sleeping Dragon Draconis Combine Tai-i
Joined: 06-Apr-2005 00:00 Posts: 4820 Location: Czech Republic
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Posted: 09-Aug-2005 08:38 Post subject: RE: AS10-D Atlas |
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I would drop third medium, but otherwise it looks like Atlas now.
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bladewind Free Rasalhague Republic Major General
Joined: 02-Oct-2004 00:00 Posts: 1054 Location: Singapore
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Posted: 09-Aug-2005 13:32 Post subject: RE: AS10-D Atlas |
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Woot looks closer to my idea than Rudel.
I will miss the CASE though, LRM20 ammo causes big booms everywhere but i guess he is more inlined with a field refit.
(CASE is a factory only refit)
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Sleeping Dragon Draconis Combine Tai-i
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Posted: 09-Aug-2005 13:46 Post subject: RE: AS10-D Atlas |
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There was a picture of lvl 3 Atlas (small cockpit) with Large ER laser in head, but that was before they reorganized it, I don't know if it's still there.
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Rudel Gurken Allisters Light Thunder Major
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Posted: 09-Aug-2005 15:03 Post subject: RE: AS10-D Atlas |
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I only mean the cigar-thing!
_________________ Reality is where the Pizza-man comes from!'Gucken, petzen, verpissen!' (Look at it, squeal it, get the hell away from it!) – Motto of the recon troops'Artillery doesn´t know friend or foe! They only know worthwhile targets!‘ – Kuritan Infantrist
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Delta Lyran Alliance Leutnant
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Posted: 09-Aug-2005 17:22 Post subject: RE: AS10-D Atlas |
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Yea, the cigar was kickass.
Anything bigger than a medium cigar would look well...wrong. I see the cigar as a Solaris VII thing.
And wasn't the AC/20 in the arm anyway?
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McBride Draconis Combine Shujin
Joined: 06-Nov-2004 00:00 Posts: 101 Location: Canada
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Posted: 09-Aug-2005 18:44 Post subject: RE: AS10-D Atlas |
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It's a really nice looking mech, both versions if you use them right. Of course, same could be said of any mech.
As for the cigar thing, doesn't the Hauptman come stock with a cigar?
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StarRaven Federated Suns Leftenant General
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Posted: 09-Aug-2005 23:51 Post subject: RE: AS10-D Atlas |
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This (the second version) is quite good. Weapons for all ranges, but especially for long range. If you switch the RT laser with the gauss, then I'll call this an Atlas. Indeed, it would be the AS7-K perfected and as it would have been had the designers been sane.
I've never really considered CASE so complex as to be a factory refit, so I would much rather drop the cigar for CASE (which will keep you from getting smoked). But that's just me.
Off topic, but I couldn't resist:
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On 2005-08-09 03:41, Rudel Gurken wrote:
I like this! But putting the GR into the torso and fitting a PPC in each arm would resemble the original look more! (Odd sentence but I can´t say it a better way! Sorry for my english!)
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That actually isn't an odd sentence at all, I'd say. It makes perfect sense, and is grammatically correct.
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bladewind Free Rasalhague Republic Major General
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Posted: 10-Aug-2005 00:49 Post subject: RE: AS10-D Atlas |
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On 2005-08-09 17:22, Delta wrote:
Yea, the cigar was kickass.
Anything bigger than a medium cigar would look well...wrong. I see the cigar as a Solaris VII thing.
And wasn't the AC/20 in the arm anyway?
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The stock AC20 was RT mounted.
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Rudel Gurken Allisters Light Thunder Major
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Posted: 10-Aug-2005 01:28 Post subject: RE: AS10-D Atlas |
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Cool! The sentence just sound too "german" to me!
_________________ Reality is where the Pizza-man comes from!'Gucken, petzen, verpissen!' (Look at it, squeal it, get the hell away from it!) – Motto of the recon troops'Artillery doesn´t know friend or foe! They only know worthwhile targets!‘ – Kuritan Infantrist
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