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Warhammer: 3025
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 Posted: 03-Oct-2005 06:14 Post subject: Beehive Dropship |
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Just a random idea that came to me last night.
The hive lands, probably at an already-established beachhead, disgorges the regiment, then either stays put in the relative safety of the LZ, or transits back into orbit.
Both the Beehive and the Soldier Bees are equipped with ECCM systems designed to punch through enemy ECM and keep the control signals to the drones from being jammed.
The Beehive and its' complimentary Bees aren't the best choice for garrisons and the like, but rather are intended for mass assaults, invasions, and other large-scale offensive operations.
You get all the advantages of a fast, suicidal regiment of armored vehicles, but without the expense of paying to train replacement crews and paying out GI bills.
Class/Model/Name: Beehive
Tech: Inner Sphere / 2750
Vessel Type: Spheroid DropShip
Rules: Level 1, Custom design
Rules Set: AeroTech2
Mass: 23,000 tons
Length: 147 meters
Power Plant: Standard
Safe Thrust: 5
Maximum Thrust: 8
Armor Type: Standard
Armament:
28 Large Laser
60 Medium Laser
20 PPC
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==Overview:==
The Beehive class dropship was unique among Star League-era military
transports in that it carried no combat forces (at least, none in the
conventional sense). Instead, it transported a full regiment of unmanned,
remotely piloted attack drones. That is, it would have had one ever been
built.
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Class/Model/Name: Beehive
Mass: 23,000 tons
Equipment: Mass
Power Plant, Drive & Control: 7,475.00
Thrust: Safe Thrust: 5
Maximum Thrust: 8
Structural Integrity: 27 1,242.00
Total Heat Sinks: 604 Single 379.00
Fuel & Fuel Pumps: 1,894.00
Bridge, Controls, Radar, Computer & Attitude Thrusters: 173.00
Fire Control Computers: 33.00
Food & Water: (129 days supply) 624.00
Armor Type: Standard (1,140 total armor pts) 86.00
Standard Scale Armor Pts
Location: L / R
Fore: 325
Left/Right Sides: 285/285
Aft: 245
Cargo:
Bay 1: Light Vehicles (to 50T) (144) with 15 doors 7,200.00
Bay 2: Drone Control Pods (144) 288.00
Life Boats: 60 (7 tons each) 420.00
Escape Pods: 109 (7 tons each) 763.00
Crew and Passengers:
6 Officers (5 minimum) 60.00
5 Crew (3 minimum) 35.00
20 Gunners (18 minimum) 140.00
72 Marines 360.00
144 Bee Pilots 1,008.00
720 Bay Personnel .00
Weapons and Equipment Loc SRV MRV LRV ERV Heat Mass
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4 Large Laser Nose 3(32) 3(32) -- -- 32 20.00
4 Large Laser Nose 3(32) 3(32) -- -- 32 20.00
4 Large Laser Nose 3(32) 3(32) -- -- 32 20.00
6 Medium Laser Nose 3(30) -- -- -- 18 6.00
3 PPC FL/R 3(30) 3(30) -- -- 60 42.00
3 PPC FL/R 3(30) 3(30) -- -- 60 42.00
6 Medium Laser FL/R 3(30) -- -- -- 36 12.00
6 Medium Laser FL/R 3(30) -- -- -- 36 12.00
5 Large Laser AL/R 4(40) 4(40) -- -- 80 50.00
4 PPC AL/R 4(40) 4(40) -- -- 80 56.00
6 Medium Laser AL/R 3(30) -- -- -- 36 12.00
6 Medium Laser AL/R 3(30) -- -- -- 36 12.00
6 Large Laser Aft 5(48) 5(48) -- -- 48 30.00
6 Medium Laser Aft 3(30) -- -- -- 18 6.00
1 Lot Spare Parts (1.00%) 230.00
1 ECCM/Jammer Breaker 250.00
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TOTALS: Heat: 604 23,000.00
Tons Left: .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 858,693,472 C-Bills
Battle Value: 13,737
Cost per BV: 62,509.53
Weapon Value: 13,681 (Ratio = 1.00)
Damage Factors: SRV = 664; MRV = 306; LRV = 0; ERV = 0
Maintenance: Maintenance Point Value (MPV) = 231,169
(133,216 Structure, 85,725 Life Support, 12,228 Weapons)
Support Points (SP) = 37,250 (16% of MPV)
BattleForce2: MP: 5, Armor/Structure: 19 / 19
Damage PB/M/L: 26/14/-, Overheat: 0
Class: DL; Point Value: 137
Specials: sph
Type/Model: Soldier Bee
Tech: Inner Sphere / 2750
Config: Tracked Drone
Rules: Level 3, Custom design
Mass: 30 tons
Power Plant: 150 Various I.C.E.
Cruise Speed: 54.0 km/h
Maximum Speed: 86.4 km/h
Armor Type: Various Standard
Armament:
2 SRM 4s
1 Bee Drone ECCM*
Manufacturer: Various
Location: Various
Communications System: Various
Targeting & Tracking System: Various
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Type/Model: Soldier Bee
Mass: 30 tons
Construction Options: Fractional Accounting
Equipment: Items Mass
Int. Struct.: 15 pts Standard 0 3.00
Engine: 150 I.C.E. 0 11.00
Cruise MP: 5
Flank MP: 8
Heat Sinks: 0 Single 0 .00
Controls: 0 1.50
Crew: 2 Members 0 .00
Drone Remote Equipment & Sensors: 1 3.50
Turret Equipment: 0 .40
Armor Factor: 81 pts Standard 0 5.06
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Front: 3 24
Left / Right Sides: 3 16/16
Rear: 3 11
Turret: 3 14
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Items Mass
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2 SRM 4s Turret 0 25 3 5.00
1 Bee Drone ECCM* Body 0 1 .50
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TOTALS: 0 5 29.96
Items & Tons Left: 6 .04
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 590,980 C-Bills
Battle Value: 206
Cost per BV: 2,868.83
Weapon Value: 92 / 92 (Ratio = .45 / .45)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 8; MRDmg = 1; LRDmg = 0
BattleForce2: MP: 5T, Armor/Structure: 0 / 3
Damage PB/M/L: 1/1/-, Overheat: 0
Class: GL; Point Value: 2
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Erenon
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| Posted: 03-Oct-2005 20:41 Post subject: RE: Beehive Dropship |
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Cool..
this is very interesting.. land two of these to soften up the enemy then drop a battalion of mechs on any weak points..
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StarRaven
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| Posted: 03-Oct-2005 23:18 Post subject: RE: Beehive Dropship |
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An interesting idea. Except for the risk of someone destorying the DropShip and salvaging your disabled regiment, it should work well. I'd consider smaller, battalion sized DropShips to be a worthwhile investment if the system were ever deployed.
I like it. Original, too. That's one of the things about Warhammer brand posts: oftentimes we get something that's quite orginal. Or, at least, that I've never heard of.
You might want to consider having more than one Soldier Bee variant. A longer ranged one likely, and perhaps a heavier (45-50 ton) version as well. And maybe a faster scout?
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bladewind
Free Rasalhague Republic
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| Posted: 03-Oct-2005 23:33 Post subject: RE: Beehive Dropship |
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ah yes, the idea of lots of tiny drones scurrying over the enemy and peppering them with SRMs is GOOD ! 
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| Posted: 04-Oct-2005 00:18 Post subject: RE: Beehive Dropship |
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Medron Pryde over at HeavyMetal suggested some things:
Type/Model: Soldier Bee
Tech: Inner Sphere / 2750
Config: Tracked Drone
Rules: Level 3, Custom design
Mass: 30 tons
Power Plant: 180 Various Fusion
Cruise Speed: 64.8 km/h
Maximum Speed: 97.2 km/h
Armor Type: Various Standard
Armament:
1 Bee Drone ECCM*
1 Large Laser
Manufacturer: Various
Location: Various
Communications System: Various
Targeting & Tracking System: Various
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Type/Model: Soldier Bee
Mass: 30 tons
Construction Options: Fractional Accounting
Equipment: Items Mass
Int. Struct.: 15 pts Standard 0 3.00
Engine: 180 Fusion 0 7.00
Shielding & Transmission Equipment: 0 3.50
Cruise MP: 6
Flank MP: 9
Heat Sinks: 10 Single 0 .00
Controls: 0 1.50
Crew: 2 Members 0 .00
Drone Remote Equipment & Sensors: 1 3.50
Turret Equipment: 0 .50
Armor Factor: 88 pts Standard 0 5.50
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Front: 3 27
Left / Right Sides: 3 17/17
Rear: 3 12
Turret: 3 15
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Items Mass
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1 Bee Drone ECCM* Body 0 1 .50
1 Large Laser Turret 8 1 5.00
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TOTALS: 8 3 30.00
Items & Tons Left: 8 .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 906,750 C-Bills
Battle Value: 285
Cost per BV: 3,181.58
Weapon Value: 161 / 161 (Ratio = .56 / .56)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 7; MRDmg = 4; LRDmg = 0
BattleForce2: MP: 6T, Armor/Structure: 0 / 3
Damage PB/M/L: 1/1/-, Overheat: 0
Class: GL; Point Value: 3
Type/Model: Scout Bee
Tech: Inner Sphere / 2750
Config: Hovercraft Drone
Rules: Level 3, Custom design
Mass: 30 tons
Power Plant: 110 Various Fusion
Cruise Speed: 86.4 km/h
Maximum Speed: 129.6 km/h
Armor Type: Various Standard
Armament:
1 Bee Drone ECCM*
3 Medium Pulse Lasers
Manufacturer: Various
Location: Various
Communications System: Various
Targeting & Tracking System: Various
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Type/Model: Scout Bee
Mass: 30 tons
Construction Options: Fractional Accounting
Equipment: Items Mass
Int. Struct.: 15 pts Standard 0 3.00
Engine: 110 Fusion 0 4.00
Shielding & Transmission Equipment: 0 2.00
Cruise MP: 8
Flank MP: 12
Heat Sinks: 12 Single 0 2.00
Controls: 0 1.50
Crew: 2 Members 0 .00
Drone Remote Equipment & Sensors: 1 3.50
Lift Equipment: 0 3.00
Turret Equipment: 0 .60
Armor Factor: 62 pts Standard 0 3.88
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Front: 3 18
Left / Right Sides: 3 13/13
Rear: 3 8
Turret: 3 10
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Items Mass
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1 Bee Drone ECCM* Body 0 1 .50
3 Medium Pulse Lasers Turret 12 3 6.00
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TOTALS: 12 5 29.98
Items & Tons Left: 6 .02
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 1,097,280 C-Bills
Battle Value: 331
Cost per BV: 3,315.05
Weapon Value: 154 / 154 (Ratio = .47 / .47)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 14; MRDmg = 0; LRDmg = 0
BattleForce2: MP: 8H, Armor/Structure: 0 / 3
Damage PB/M/L: 2/2/-, Overheat: 0
Class: GL; Point Value: 3
Type/Model: Worker Bee
Tech: Inner Sphere / 2750
Config: V.T.O.L. Drone
Rules: Level 3, Custom design
Mass: 30 tons
Power Plant: 130 Various Fusion
Cruise Speed: 97.2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 151.2 km/h
Armor Type: Various Standard
Armament:
1 Bee Drone ECCM*
1 PPC
Manufacturer: Various
Location: Various
Communications System: Various
Targeting & Tracking System: Various
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Type/Model: Worker Bee
Mass: 30 tons
Construction Options: Fractional Accounting
Equipment: Items Mass
Int. Struct.: 15 pts Standard 0 3.00
Engine: 130 Fusion 0 4.50
Shielding & Transmission Equipment: 0 2.25
Cruise MP: 9
Flank MP: 14
Heat Sinks: 10 Single 0 .00
Controls: 0 1.50
Crew: 2 Members 0 .00
Drone Remote Equipment & Sensors: 1 3.50
Rotor Equipment: Co-axial Rotors 0 3.00
Armor Factor: 76 pts Standard 0 4.75
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Front: 3 26
Left / Right Sides: 3 18/18
Rear: 3 12
Rotor: 3 2
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Items Mass
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1 Bee Drone ECCM* Body 0 1 .50
1 PPC Front 10 1 7.00
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TOTALS: 10 3 30.00
Items & Tons Left: 8 .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 1,615,000 C-Bills
Battle Value: 788
Cost per BV: 2,049.49
Weapon Value: 213 / 213 (Ratio = .27 / .27)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 8; MRDmg = 6; LRDmg = 2
BattleForce2: MP: 9V, Armor/Structure: 0 / 3
Damage PB/M/L: 1/1/1, Overheat: 0
Class: VA; Point Value: 8
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Delta
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| Posted: 04-Oct-2005 08:00 Post subject: RE: Beehive Dropship |
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| I'd only bother with the hover or VTOL versions; others are too slow.
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| Posted: 04-Oct-2005 22:40 Post subject: RE: Beehive Dropship |
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One more drone for this to carry would be a V/STOL conventional fighter.
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| Posted: 04-Oct-2005 23:16 Post subject: RE: Beehive Dropship |
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The Soldier Bee has an advantage the Scout and Drone Bees lack: durability.
The Scout Bee is a hovercraft: poke some holes in the plenum skirt, and down it goes. They can't go in certain terrain types (rubble is the only one I can think of right now, bit I'm sure there are others), which limits their utility.
The Drone Bee is a VTOL. They are notorious for being fragile, even with the level 3 vehicle rules.
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| Posted: 11-Oct-2005 22:16 Post subject: RE: Beehive Dropship |
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On 2005-10-04 23:16, Warhammer: 3025 wrote:
The Soldier Bee has an advantage the Scout and Drone Bees lack: durability.
The Scout Bee is a hovercraft: poke some holes in the plenum skirt, and down it goes. They can't go in certain terrain types (rubble is the only one I can think of right now, bit I'm sure there are others), which limits their utility.
The Drone Bee is a VTOL. They are notorious for being fragile, even with the level 3 vehicle rules.
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The Drone and Scout Bees actually pack more firepower than the soldier. I think their armor loads are quite sufficent. They're suicidal, after all. Considering the 'fragile' craft pack nearly as much armor, but just have weak spots. Speed compensates.
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On 2005-10-04 22:40, Motown Scrapper wrote:
One more drone for this to carry would be a V/STOL conventional fighter.
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Predator UAV anyone?  'Killer Bee'?
If you really want to specialize, you could even make submersible drones...
'Sea Bees'
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| Posted: 11-Oct-2005 23:54 Post subject: RE: Beehive Dropship |
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Conventional fighters can't have Drone modifications; they're considered aircraft, not vehicles (they fall under the Aerotech rules).
However...
Type/Model: Sea Bee
Tech: Inner Sphere / 2750
Config: Submarine Drone
Rules: Level 3, Custom design
Mass: 30 tons
Power Plant: 120 Various Fusion
Cruise Speed: 54.0 km/h
Maximum Speed: 86.4 km/h
Armor Type: Various Standard
Armament:
1 Bee Drone ECCM*
1 LR Torpedo 10
1 Medium Laser
Manufacturer: Various
Location: Various
Communications System: Various
Targeting & Tracking System: Various
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Type/Model: Sea Bee
Mass: 30 tons
Equipment: Items Mass
Int. Struct.: 15 pts Standard 0 3.00
Engine: 120 Fusion 0 4.00
Shielding & Transmission Equipment: 0 2.00
Cruise MP: 5
Flank MP: 8
Heat Sinks: 10 Single 0 .00
Controls: 0 1.50
Crew: 2 Members 0 .00
Drone Remote Equipment & Sensors: 1 3.50
Diving Equipment: 0 3.00
Turret Equipment: 0 .50
Armor Factor: 80 pts Standard 0 5.00
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Front: 3 24
Left / Right Sides: 3 16/16
Rear: 3 11
Turret: 3 13
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Items Mass
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1 Bee Drone ECCM* Body 0 1 .50
1 LR Torpedo 10 Front 0 12 2 6.00
1 Medium Laser Turret 3 1 1.00
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TOTALS: 3 5 30.00
Items & Tons Left: 6 .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 1,124,000 C-Bills
Battle Value: 258
Cost per BV: 4,356.59
Weapon Value: 143 / 143 (Ratio = .55 / .55)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 7; MRDmg = 5; LRDmg = 3
BattleForce2: MP: 5S, Armor/Structure: 0 / 3
Damage PB/M/L: 1/1/1, Overheat: 0
Class: NS; Point Value: 3
[ This Message was edited by: Warhammer: 3025 on 2005-10-12 00:00 ]
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