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					Sleeping Dragon Draconis Combine Tai-i
  
 
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								 Posted: 11-Oct-2005 15:12    Post subject: RL question | 
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								It's just one of my stupid questions, but I cannot find sufficient answer myself.
 
 Is there some reason other than Vee item limit for using RLs bigger than RL 10?
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					chihawk Clan Blood Spirit Master Bartender
  
 
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								 Posted: 11-Oct-2005 15:41    Post subject: RE: RL question | 
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 On 2005-10-11 15:12, Sleeping Dragon wrote:
 It's just one of my stupid questions, but I cannot find sufficient answer myself.
 
 Is there some reason other than Vee item limit for using RLs bigger than RL 10?
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 Yes.    
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					Sleeping Dragon Draconis Combine Tai-i
  
 
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								 Posted: 11-Oct-2005 16:05    Post subject: RE: RL question | 
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								Ladies and gentlemen! And the reason is...    ?
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					Stinger The Knights of Chaos General
  
 
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								 Posted: 11-Oct-2005 16:59    Post subject: RE: RL question | 
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 On 2005-10-11 15:12, Sleeping Dragon wrote:
 Is there some reason other than Vee item limit for using RLs bigger than RL 10?
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 Yes. And the reason is that there are many Items bigger than the RL 10 that are more effective. The RL 10 is only 1 crit slot, the LRM 5 is 2 counting ammo.
 
 
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					Vagabond Mercenary Mr. Referee
  
 
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								 Posted: 11-Oct-2005 18:38    Post subject: RE: RL question | 
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 On 2005-10-11 16:59, Stinger wrote:
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 On 2005-10-11 15:12, Sleeping Dragon wrote:
 Is there some reason other than Vee item limit for using RLs bigger than RL 10?
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 Yes. And the reason is that there are many Items bigger than the RL 10 that are more effective. The RL 10 is only 1 crit slot, the LRM 5 is 2 counting ammo.
 
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 And considering he asked only about RLs, your entire point goes up in a beautiful puff of smoke, pink colored i might add.
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					Stinger The Knights of Chaos General
  
 
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								 Posted: 12-Oct-2005 02:08    Post subject: RE: RL question | 
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								drat I was hoping for purple this time. 
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					ralgith Blighted Sun Battalion 1st Company "Ralgith's Renegades" Colonel
  
 
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								 Posted: 12-Oct-2005 02:55    Post subject: RE: RL question | 
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 On 2005-10-12 02:08, Stinger wrote:
 drat I was hoping for purple this time. 
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 Sorry, i got the purple  
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					DarkAdder Clan Star Adder Star Commander
  
 
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								 Posted: 12-Oct-2005 05:16    Post subject: RE: RL question | 
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								I hate pink.  Every time....nothing but pink smoke.
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					Karagin Imperial Karagin Army Imperial General
  
 
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								 Posted: 12-Oct-2005 05:55    Post subject: RE: RL question | 
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								It's better the white smoke or green that I was stuck with last time.
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					StarRaven Federated Suns Leftenant General
  
 
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								 Posted: 12-Oct-2005 20:24    Post subject: RE: RL question | 
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 On 2005-10-11 15:12, Sleeping Dragon wrote:
 It's just one of my stupid questions, but I cannot find sufficient answer myself.
 
 Is there some reason other than Vee item limit for using RLs bigger than RL 10?
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 The only reason I can think of is having more than half a ton free, but no more heat capacity or other ways to add weapons. But unless you've got an OmniVehicle, you could be adding armor instead.
 
 I think the real question is: Is there some reason for using RLs?
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					Warhammer: 3025 Freelance Captain, AFFC (Ret.)
  
 
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								 Posted: 12-Oct-2005 23:10    Post subject: RE: RL question | 
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								Sure is. Check it:
 
 
 
Type/Model:    2.5 Ton Truck Katyusha Variant
Tech:          Inner Sphere / 2000
Config:        Wheeled Vehicle
Rules:         Level 2, Custom design
Mass:          5 tons
Power Plant:   10 Various I.C.E.
Cruise Speed:  64.8 km/h
Maximum Speed: 97.2 km/h
Armor Type:    Various Standard
Armament:      
  5 Rocket Launcher 10 (OS)s
Manufacturer:  Various
  Location:    Various
Communications System:  Various
Targeting & Tracking System:  Various
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Type/Model:    2.5 Ton Truck Katyusha Variant
Mass:          5 tons
Equipment:                                 Items    Mass
Int. Struct.:  4 pts Standard                0       .50
Engine:        10 I.C.E.                     0      1.00
    Cruise MP:   6
     Flank MP:   9
Heat Sinks:      0 Single                    0       .00
Cockpit & Controls:                          0       .50
Crew: 1 Members                              0       .00
Armor Factor:    8 pts Standard              0       .50
                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Front:                     1          2 
   Left / Right Sides:        1        2/2 
   Rear:                      1          2 
Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Items    Mass
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5 Rocket Launcher 10 (OS)Front    0          5      2.50
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TOTALS:                           0          5      5.00
Items & Tons Left:                           1       .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        93,104 C-Bills
Battle Value:      144
Cost per BV:       646.56
Weapon Value:      17 / 17 (Ratio = .12 / .12)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 38;  MRDmg = 23;  LRDmg = 8
BattleForce2:      MP: 6W,  Armor/Structure: 0 / 0
                   Damage PB/M/L: -/-/-,  Overheat: 0
                   Class: GL;  Point Value: 1
 
 
 
 This 5-ton, 15 thousand C-Bill, unassuming truck just became capable of pumping out 50 points of damage.
 
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					ralgith Blighted Sun Battalion 1st Company "Ralgith's Renegades" Colonel
  
 
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								 Posted: 13-Oct-2005 02:22    Post subject: RE: RL question | 
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								*BONK!!*
 
 You sure do have a lot of spare time on your hands Warhammer   Now go design something worthy lol. J/K  
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					Sleeping Dragon Draconis Combine Tai-i
  
 
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								 Posted: 13-Oct-2005 13:50    Post subject: RE: RL question | 
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								Theoretically to make machine (Vee or mech) that would fire a lot of RLs in salvos. This would require mounting really big amounts of them and having some HSs just to allow emptying the racks (retreat isn't problem, no additional heat produced). Something like katyusha. Heavier machines will probably mount MRMs, but light machines would make use of them this way. Using them on BA instead of SRMs would be another interesting option.
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					Rudel Gurken Allisters Light Thunder Major
  
 
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								 Posted: 14-Oct-2005 01:27    Post subject: RE: RL question | 
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								On Vehicles there is really no reason to mount RL´s greater than 10 (exept Item Limit!)!
 On Mechs and Fighters it´s maybe a better heat management!
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