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Mythophiles Federated Suns Recruit
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Posted: 15-Nov-2006 19:43 Post subject: Pulse lasers |
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Greetings all!
I have a quick question for you all in terms of Btech history and pulse lasers. I'm trying to come up with some fluff for a SL era design and was trying to do my homework on this one. According to canon, which was the first Mech to mount them? I double checked my 2750 TRO and was surprised to see that not one design used them.
Thanks,
Mythophiles
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Sleeping Dragon Draconis Combine Tai-i
Joined: 06-Apr-2005 00:00 Posts: 4820 Location: Czech Republic
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Posted: 16-Nov-2006 03:38 Post subject: RE: Pulse lasers |
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I'm not sure, but I don't think that the pulse lasers were popular in SL era. They are accurate, but their range is a limiting factor, so they would be installed in units that wanted them, but there was no 'Mech or vehicle designed with pulse lasers in mind. after SW era the 'Mech-grade pulse lasers reappeared around 3040, but they were still used (and produced) as portable weapons even in that lostech era. Different thing would be the production of clan military.
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Seraph Blighted Sun Battalion 2nd Company "Seraph's Slaughter" Major
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Posted: 16-Nov-2006 23:21 Post subject: RE: Pulse lasers |
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not quite sure but i think pulse tech was as new to the IS as the clans were.
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Warhammer: 3025 Freelance Captain, AFFC (Ret.)
Joined: 29-Jan-2005 00:00 Posts: 1856
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Posted: 17-Nov-2006 00:04 Post subject: RE: Pulse lasers |
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Pulse Lasers are on page 8 of TRO2750, so they're quite old.
What's really strange is that only one design in the entire book (the Lightning hover tank) had pulse lasers.
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Nightmare Lyran Alliance Kommandant-General
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Posted: 17-Nov-2006 05:35 Post subject: RE: Pulse lasers |
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On 2006-11-17 00:04, Warhammer: 3025 wrote:
Pulse Lasers are on page 8 of TRO2750, so they're quite old.
What's really strange is that only one design in the entire book (the Lightning hover tank) had pulse lasers.
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Apparently the SLDF didn't quite trust the new stuff at that time. Should we assume that the units in TRO 2750 are the things the army used and any private production was left out?
Some of the designs in TRO 3050 were said to be SL-era mechs. There was a light mech, the Falcon, that used pulse lasers. Or am I mistaken?
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Warhammer: 3025 Freelance Captain, AFFC (Ret.)
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Posted: 17-Nov-2006 05:53 Post subject: RE: Pulse lasers |
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The FLC-4P Falcon (the one I'm assuming you're referring to) is fluffed in TRO3050 Revised as being a Wolf's Dragoons recovered-tech refit of the Falcons the Dragoons already had.
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Sleeping Dragon Draconis Combine Tai-i
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Posted: 17-Nov-2006 08:10 Post subject: RE: Pulse lasers |
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Pulse laser personal weapons are mentioned in TRO 3026, so the pulse technology wasn't lost completely after the fall of SL for house of the IS and ComStar still used (and probably was able to produce) them even in this period.
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mud Draconis Combine Tai-sho
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Posted: 17-Nov-2006 16:18 Post subject: RE: Pulse lasers |
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TRO 3058 had a lot of old SLDF designs...I'm pretty sure that there are some pulse lasers on those 'mechs.
On the other hand, pulse lasers are so broken that I really don't mind that they don't pop up very often in 2750.
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Seraph Blighted Sun Battalion 2nd Company "Seraph's Slaughter" Major
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Posted: 17-Nov-2006 17:22 Post subject: RE: Pulse lasers |
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The units in TRO2750 are the ones used in addition to those in TRO3025 and also a few in TRO3050+ are mentioned as having been in use back during the Star League but were either severly decimated or have fallen into disrepair because of the higher level of tech needed to keep those units in opperating condition.
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AWAD Draconis Combine Chu-sa
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Posted: 18-Nov-2006 15:13 Post subject: RE: Pulse lasers |
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On 2006-11-17 16:18, mud wrote:
On the other hand, pulse lasers are so broken that I really don't mind that they don't pop up very often in 2750.
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IS pulse is not boken. Bent with the advent of targeting computer. Clan was bent from the beginning and for those bastards that do the BS IS Mechs with Clan Tech...... well let us say I can not post those words.
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Rudel Gurken Allisters Light Thunder Major
Joined: 15-Jun-2005 00:00 Posts: 1456 Location: Germany
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Posted: 19-Nov-2006 03:14 Post subject: RE: Pulse lasers |
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The Lightning Hover of TRO 2750 (2 MdPL) was designed in 2696 by Curtiss Industries under contract for Star League!
The FNHK-9K Falcon Hawk (1 SmPL) was developed (not produced) in 2768 by Kallon under contract for Star League (Production didn´t take place because of the Amaris War).
The NTK-2Q Night Hawk (1 MdPL) was build in 2565 by Mountain Wolf Battlemechs under contract for Star League, too!
So Pulse Lasers were invented somewhere before 2560 i think!!
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