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Karagin
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 Posted: 21-Oct-2007 13:16 Post subject: Two versions of the Puma MBT |
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Okay I have two versions of the Puma Tank. Both seem okay expect for the price. One cost as much as some light to medium to even heavy mechs, the other is a lot less and packs about the same firepower.
What I am asking for here is which one would be the best to go with Hussar APC I posted earlier? So here are both versions. The uber-pricey one is first followed by the cheaper one:
| Code: | BattleTech Vehicle Technical Readout
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Type/Model: Puma PT-34
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3050
Config: Tracked Vehicle
Rules: Level 2-FA, Standard design
Mass: 40 tons
Power Plant: 240 GTEM XL Fusion
Cruise Speed: 64.8 km/h
Maximum Speed: 97.2 km/h
Armor Type: Jolassa-328 Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
1 Priestly 600P Medium Pulse Laser
1 Light Gauss Rifle
2 SRM 2s
Manufacturer: Brooks Incorporated
Location: Irian
Communications System: Maxell 500
Targeting & Tracking System: Bk-309
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Type/Model: Puma PT-34
Mass: 40 tons
Construction Options: Fractional Accounting
Equipment: Items Mass
Int. Struct.: 20 pts Standard 0 4.00
Engine: 240 XL Fusion 2 5.75
Shielding & Transmission Equipment: 0 2.88
Cruise MP: 6
Flank MP: 9
Heat Sinks: 10 Single 0 .00
Cockpit & Controls: 0 2.00
Crew: 3 Members 0 .00
Turret Equipment: 0 1.60
Armor Factor: 108 pts Ferro-Fibrous 2 6.00
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Front: 4 25
Left / Right Sides: 4 18/18
Rear: 4 19
Turret: 4 28
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Items Mass
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1 Medium Pulse Laser Turret 4 1 2.00
1 Light Gauss Rifle Turret 0 16 2 13.00
2 SRM 2s Turret 0 38 3 2.76
Miscellaneous Equipment Body 1 .01
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TOTALS: 4 11 40.00
Items & Tons Left: 2 .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 4,400,928 C-Bills
Battle Value: 530
Cost per BV: 8,303.64
Weapon Value: 312 / 312 (Ratio = .59 / .59)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 15; MRDmg = 7; LRDmg = 4
BattleForce2: MP: 6T, Armor/Structure: 0 / 4
Damage PB/M/L: 2/2/1, Overheat: 0
Class: GM; Point Value: 5
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And the second version aka the cheaper one:
| Code: | BattleTech Vehicle Technical Readout
VALIDATED
Type/Model: Puma PT-34A
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3055
Config: Tracked Vehicle
Rules: Level 2-FA, Standard design
Mass: 45 tons
Power Plant: 180 GTEM Fusion
Cruise Speed: 43.2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 64.8 km/h
Armor Type: Jolassa-328 Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
1 K&K MetalWorks Light Gauss Rifle
2 Falcon Lasers ER Medium Lasers
2 Hawkeye Sure Fire SRM 4s
Manufacturer: Brooks Incorporated
Location: Irian
Communications System: Maxell 500
Targeting & Tracking System: Bk-309
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Type/Model: Puma PT-34A
Mass: 45 tons
Construction Options: Fractional Accounting
Equipment: Items Mass
Int. Struct.: 25 pts Standard 0 4.50
Engine: 180 Fusion 0 7.00
Shielding & Transmission Equipment: 0 3.50
Cruise MP: 4
Flank MP: 6
Heat Sinks: 10 Single 0 .00
Cockpit & Controls: 0 2.25
Crew: 3 Members 0 .00
Turret Equipment: 0 1.70
Armor Factor: 108 pts Ferro-Fibrous 2 6.00
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Front: 5 25
Left / Right Sides: 5 20/20
Rear: 5 19
Turret: 5 24
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Items Mass
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1 Light Gauss Rifle Turret 0 16 2 13.00
1 ER Medium Laser Turret 5 1 1.00
2 SRM 4s Turret 0 26 3 5.04
1 ER Medium Laser Front 5 1 1.00
Strobe Light Array Body 1 .01
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TOTALS: 10 10 45.00
Items & Tons Left: 4 .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 1,941,666 C-Bills
Battle Value: 548
Cost per BV: 3,543.19
Weapon Value: 479 / 479 (Ratio = .87 / .87)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 23; MRDmg = 11; LRDmg = 4
BattleForce2: MP: 4T, Armor/Structure: 0 / 4
Damage PB/M/L: 3/3/1, Overheat: 0
Class: GM; Point Value: 5
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Rudel Gurken
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| Posted: 21-Oct-2007 13:24 Post subject: Two versions of the Puma MBT |
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I would go with the second variant as i'm not a fan of XL carrying vehicles.
It is better armed too and the speed is just ok (the price for taking a standard engine).
I like the LGR but the first variant does too little to defend it at short range while the second variant not only has more firepower up close but also is able to support its main weapon with lasers at medium ranges!
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Karagin
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| Posted: 21-Oct-2007 13:32 Post subject: Re: Two versions of the Puma MBT |
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| Rudel Gurken wrote: | I would go with the second variant as i'm not a fan of XL carrying vehicles.
It is better armed too and the speed is just ok (the price for taking a standard engine).
I like the LGR but the first variant does too little to defend it at short range while the second variant not only has more firepower up close but also is able to support its main weapon with lasers at medium ranges! |
The second one is also heavier then first, but it does equal out.
Okay one vote for the second version.
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Rudel Gurken
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| Posted: 21-Oct-2007 13:46 Post subject: Re: Two versions of the Puma MBT |
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| Karagin wrote: |
The second one is also heavier then first, ... |
That totally escaped me 
If XL engines are "normal" in your universe you can decide otherwise.
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Karagin
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| Posted: 21-Oct-2007 13:50 Post subject: Re: Two versions of the Puma MBT |
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| Rudel Gurken wrote: | | Karagin wrote: |
The second one is also heavier then first, ... |
That totally escaped me
If XL engines are "normal" in your universe you can decide otherwise. |
They are around, they haven't taken over as the standard that's all you can get engine. Fusions are more common for the most part.
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Sleeping Dragon
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| Posted: 22-Oct-2007 03:19 Post subject: Two versions of the Puma MBT |
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Since you want a support for the Hussar APC I would go with the first of the tanks. The first wins for me because it's able to outrun the APC and thus it can follow it wherever it's needed without slowing the fragile vehicle down. I doubt that you'll always be able to get a good position from which you can control the situation with the long range gun so the first variant can not only follow, but also move to firing position while both vehicles are still moving toward the target or stoping to aim and moving again later. The second variant can't do this and the APC must slow down to stay in touch with it. The sooner the infantry is out of the APC and fighting the better IMO, since a lucky shot can eliminate the vehicle anytime.
If you aren't concerned about the cost then go for the first one and if you are, you need a faster vehile with standard engine.
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