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Karagin
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 Posted: 17-Dec-2007 16:23 Post subject: ACs or LRMs...for Level 1 mechs... |
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Okay question for the folks here:
You need to build a medium mech, level 1 tech is all you have, you have a choice, AC10 with 2 tons of ammo (14 tons) or 2 LRM15s with 2 tons ammo (16 tons) which would you go with and why?
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| Posted: 17-Dec-2007 17:15 Post subject: ACs or LRMs...for Level 1 mechs... |
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I'd go AC/10. A little lighter. Less heat. More ammo. More punch to one location. No minimum. A slightly smaller range, but that shouldn't be an issue in a medium mech as you should have maneuverability to close quicker.
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Karagin
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| Posted: 17-Dec-2007 18:19 Post subject: Re: ACs or LRMs...for Level 1 mechs... |
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| Mordel wrote: | | I'd go AC/10. A little lighter. Less heat. More ammo. More punch to one location. No minimum. A slightly smaller range, but that shouldn't be an issue in a medium mech as you should have maneuverability to close quicker. |
Good point on the solid hit to one location. I think that may be the main selling point of over the two LRM15.
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| Posted: 18-Dec-2007 01:35 Post subject: ACs or LRMs...for Level 1 mechs... |
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Two questions:
1.) What speed and how much armour? As much as I want or there are limits?
2.) Do these two have to be the only guns the design has?
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Karagin
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| Posted: 18-Dec-2007 05:19 Post subject: Re: ACs or LRMs...for Level 1 mechs... |
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| Sleeping Dragon wrote: | Two questions:
1.) What speed and how much armour? As much as I want or there are limits? |
Armor is around 70% coverage. Speed would be 4/6.
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2.) Do these two have to be the only guns the design has? |
Actually you need to pick one or the other and give the reason why you would do so. The mech would have secondary guns, MLs etc...
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| Posted: 18-Dec-2007 05:46 Post subject: Re: ACs or LRMs...for Level 1 mechs... |
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I would probably pick the AC and some supporting weapons because the result looks like a good brawler. With the LRMs there would be no improvement over the Trebuchet and the 'Mech would be slower...
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| Posted: 28-Dec-2007 14:11 Post subject: Re: ACs or LRMs...for Level 1 mechs... |
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With 4/6/0 speed and 70% armor I would probably go with the LRM's. The armor is a bit thin for fighting in close unless softened up by a few fairly powerful LRM salvos. By the time the armor is breached, the ammo should be gone, and the mech can use ML's to cover itself at close range without any heat problems or explosion worries.
And the Trebuchet is a nice mech- copying it isn't a bad thing.
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| Posted: 29-Dec-2007 10:33 Post subject: ACs or LRMs...for Level 1 mechs... |
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The performance of these two weapons will be situational, but overall, I'll take the LRMs. Better damage (although you do pay for it in heat), more chances for critical hits, and better range give the LRMs the edge.
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| Posted: 04-Jan-2008 13:11 Post subject: Re: ACs or LRMs...for Level 1 mechs... |
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| mud wrote: | | The performance of these two weapons will be situational, but overall, I'll take the LRMs. Better damage (although you do pay for it in heat), more chances for critical hits, and better range give the LRMs the edge. |
I agree with Mud. The range is huge. The lack of punch to one location but hopefully you will have scrapped enough armor off when it gets close your other weapons finish it off. Or you have friends.
AWAD- LRM needs more range
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| Posted: 04-Mar-2008 19:42 Post subject: ACs or LRMs...for Level 1 mechs... |
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I to would go with the LRMs. I think that the range advantage is solid, and you can do other things to distinguish this mech from the Trebuchet.
What off hand, I don't know. Need to get home to do that.
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Rudel Gurken
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| Posted: 10-Mar-2008 14:41 Post subject: ACs or LRMs...for Level 1 mechs... |
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That choice heavily depends on the other stats of the Mech. Speed, armor, supporting weapons.
As i don't like to empty my main-weapons after only 8 turns i would choose the AC with no further information.
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| Posted: 13-Mar-2008 15:01 Post subject: ACs or LRMs...for Level 1 mechs... |
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| I would go with the LRM package. At 4/6 speed it will need some distance to keep from being killed outright. If it was a bit quicker I would go for the AC10 pairing.
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