Mordel's Bar & Grill
Hovercraft vs. Minefields
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Mordel's Bar & Grill Forum Index » General Discussion
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Kraken
Federated Suns
Marshal
Marshal


Joined: 04-Feb-2002 00:00
Posts: 2755
Location: United States
PostPosted: 02-Jan-2016 23:48    Post subject: Hovercraft vs. Minefields Reply to topic Reply with quote

Tonight was the preview for the final season of "Mythbusters".

During the preview, it was announced that the upcoming episodes for this season will include a test to determine if hovercraft can, indeed, skim over minefields without setting them off.

I could swear I asked this question here on this board some years ago, and so now it looks like it'll finally be answered.
_________________
"I wish I could write as mysterious as a cat." -Edgar Allen Poe"I knew there was something special about you, but I never realized you were really a cat." Wolfwood to a random cat (Trigun)
Back to top View profile Send site message Twitter Username
Mordel
Mordel.Net
Administrator
Administrator


Joined: 03-Feb-2002 00:00
Posts: 6061
Location: United States
PostPosted: 05-Jan-2016 09:18    Post subject: Re: Hovercraft vs. Minefields Reply to topic Reply with quote

Kraken wrote:
Tonight was the preview for the final season of "Mythbusters".

During the preview, it was announced that the upcoming episodes for this season will include a test to determine if hovercraft can, indeed, skim over minefields without setting them off.

I could swear I asked this question here on this board some years ago, and so now it looks like it'll finally be answered.


My guess is that the hovercraft will set off the minefields.
_________________
Mordel Blacknight - Site Administrator
Back to top View profile Send site message Send e-mail Visit website Facebook Username Twitter Username Steam Custom URL
Sleeping Dragon
Draconis Combine
Tai-i
Tai-i


Joined: 06-Apr-2005 00:00
Posts: 4820
Location: Czech Republic
PostPosted: 05-Jan-2016 14:46    Post subject: Hovercraft vs. Minefields Reply to topic Reply with quote

I don't think that it will set off mines against vehicles, but the skirt could detonate some infantry mines.
_________________
The dragon NEVER sleeps!
Back to top View profile Send site message Send e-mail
Vagabond
Mercenary
Mr. Referee
Mr. Referee


Joined: 04-Feb-2002 00:00
Posts: 5724
Location: United States
PostPosted: 05-Jan-2016 16:26    Post subject: Hovercraft vs. Minefields Reply to topic Reply with quote

i think it will depend on the square pressure needed to trigger the fuse. As SD said, vehicle mines might not have enough pressure while infantry mines will.
_________________
one must work hard to cultivate the mind and body. and one must always cultivate the mind.



//^(^_^)^\\

[Last edited by Vagabond on 06-Jan-2016 14:24; edited 1 time in total]
Back to top View profile Send site message Visit website
Sleeping Dragon
Draconis Combine
Tai-i
Tai-i


Joined: 06-Apr-2005 00:00
Posts: 4820
Location: Czech Republic
PostPosted: 06-Jan-2016 01:52    Post subject: Hovercraft vs. Minefields Reply to topic Reply with quote

Either presure, or wire triggers. Those would work always.
_________________
The dragon NEVER sleeps!
Back to top View profile Send site message Send e-mail
Kraken
Federated Suns
Marshal
Marshal


Joined: 04-Feb-2002 00:00
Posts: 2755
Location: United States
PostPosted: 09-Jan-2016 22:34    Post subject: Hovercraft vs. Minefields Reply to topic Reply with quote

The test was this evening.





Spoilers:



The team procured a light-weight hovercraft. Rated max functional weight of vehicle and occupants combined was 630 pounds. However, only one person operated the vehicle during each test.

The team rigged up a series of faux landmines set to detonate when a specific amount of weight was placed upon them.

Even when the weight threshold was set to a mere 5 pounds, the hovercraft still skated over the minefield with no issues whatsoever. A check of the mathematics revealed that the hovercraft exerted less than a pound per square inch of pressure, and so would have no issues whatsoever.

In that sense, a light enough hovercraft *could*, indeed, go over a certain type of minefield without issue.
_________________
"I wish I could write as mysterious as a cat." -Edgar Allen Poe"I knew there was something special about you, but I never realized you were really a cat." Wolfwood to a random cat (Trigun)
Back to top View profile Send site message Twitter Username
Sleeping Dragon
Draconis Combine
Tai-i
Tai-i


Joined: 06-Apr-2005 00:00
Posts: 4820
Location: Czech Republic
PostPosted: 10-Jan-2016 04:12    Post subject: Hovercraft vs. Minefields Reply to topic Reply with quote

Actually since the hovercraft rests on a air cushion the probability of triggering mines by preasure is pretty small. I'd wager my luck on tripping them with the skirt or flying debris accidentally hitting them.
_________________
The dragon NEVER sleeps!
Back to top View profile Send site message Send e-mail
Mordel
Mordel.Net
Administrator
Administrator


Joined: 03-Feb-2002 00:00
Posts: 6061
Location: United States
PostPosted: 10-Jan-2016 09:09    Post subject: Hovercraft vs. Minefields Reply to topic Reply with quote

Interesting. I drastically over-estimated the amount of downward pressure a hovercraft exerted!
_________________
Mordel Blacknight - Site Administrator
Back to top View profile Send site message Send e-mail Visit website Facebook Username Twitter Username Steam Custom URL
Vagabond
Mercenary
Mr. Referee
Mr. Referee


Joined: 04-Feb-2002 00:00
Posts: 5724
Location: United States
PostPosted: 10-Jan-2016 16:53    Post subject: Re: Hovercraft vs. Minefields Reply to topic Reply with quote

Mordel wrote:
Interesting. I drastically over-estimated the amount of downward pressure a hovercraft exerted!


To be fair, they did use a pretty small hovercraft. I'd like to see how the Marine lander does. Though the pressure inside the skirt of those is low enough for human beings to operate within it while inflated.
_________________
one must work hard to cultivate the mind and body. and one must always cultivate the mind.



//^(^_^)^\\
Back to top View profile Send site message Visit website
Sleeping Dragon
Draconis Combine
Tai-i
Tai-i


Joined: 06-Apr-2005 00:00
Posts: 4820
Location: Czech Republic
PostPosted: 11-Jan-2016 00:07    Post subject: Re: Hovercraft vs. Minefields Reply to topic Reply with quote

I think that the real problem with mine is that the presure is via airflow, so it just goes around any protruding pbjects and doesn't really push on anything that much as long as it's allowed easier way to escape.
_________________
The dragon NEVER sleeps!
Back to top View profile Send site message Send e-mail
chihawk
Clan Blood Spirit
Master Bartender
Master Bartender


Joined: 04-Feb-2002 00:00
Posts: 8072
Location: United States
PostPosted: 14-Jan-2016 21:52    Post subject: Hovercraft vs. Minefields Reply to topic Reply with quote

Let's just say I'm not convinced...
_________________
www.210sportsblog.com
Back to top View profile Send site message Send e-mail Visit website Twitter Username
Rudel Gurken
Allisters Light Thunder
Major
Major


Joined: 15-Jun-2005 00:00
Posts: 1456
Location: Germany
PostPosted: 16-Jan-2016 08:17    Post subject: Hovercraft vs. Minefields Reply to topic Reply with quote

The ground pressure should be the weight of the vehicle (that is lifted by the air cushion ) divided by the area of the air cushion.

The LCAC with 200 tons of weight and an air cushion of around 26m * 14m would have a ground pressure of 550 kg/m2 that is 0,8 pound per square inch. That should trigger everything set on this or lower value.

An 8ton PACV would have 95 kg/m2 or 0,14 psi.
_________________
Reality is where the Pizza-man comes from!'Gucken, petzen, verpissen!' (Look at it, squeal it, get the hell away from it!) – Motto of the recon troops'Artillery doesn´t know friend or foe! They only know worthwhile targets!‘ – Kuritan Infantrist
Back to top View profile Send site message
Display posts from previous:
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Mordel's Bar & Grill Forum Index » General Discussion All times are GMT-05:00

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum