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					Karagin Imperial Karagin Army Imperial General
  
 
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								 Posted: 09-Jul-2002 22:19    Post subject: Warship :Hero Class Ethan Allen | 
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								AeroTech 2 Vessel Technical Readout
                       VALIDATED
 
 Class/Model/Name:  Hero Class Ethan Allen
 Tech:              Inner Sphere / 2750
 Vessel Type:       WarShip
 Rules:             Level 2, Standard design
 
 Mass:              780,000 tons
 Engine:            
 Safe Thrust:       3
 Maximum Thrust:    5
 Armor Type:        Lamellor Ferro-carbide
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 ==Overview:==
 Built right before the Uprising the Hero Class was the last set of warship
 started by ComStar.
 
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 Class/Model/Name:  Hero Class Ethan Allen
 Mass:              780,000 tons
 
 Equipment:                                                         Mass  
 Engine, Drive & Control:                                       140,400.00
 Thrust:  Safe Thrust: 3
       Maximum Thrust: 5
 Kearny-Fuchida Hyperdrive:  Compact (Integrity = 16)           352,950.00
 Lithium Fusion Battery                                           7,800.00
 Jump Sail: (Integrity = 4)                                          69.00
 Structural Integrity: 80                                        62,400.00
 Total Heat Sinks:    019 Double                                  4,445.00
 Fuel & Fuel Pumps:                                               2,040.00
 Bridge, Controls, Computer & Attitude Thrusters:                 1,950.00
 Fire Control Computers:                                          5,040.00
 Food & Water:  (225 days supply)                                   621.00
 Hyperpulse Generator:                                               50.00
 Armor Type:  Lamellor Ferro-carbide  (1,296 total armor pt       1,248.00
                             Capital Scale Armor Pts
    Location:                         L / R
    Fore:                              216
    Fore-Left/Right:                 216/216
    Aft-Left/Right:                  216/216
    Aft:                               216
 
 Cargo:
    Bay 1:  Fighters (20) with 4 doors                            3,000.00
    Bay 2:  Small Craft (6) with 4 doors                          1,200.00
    Bay 3:  Cargo (1) with 2 doors                               15,434.00
 
 DropShip Capacity:  16 Docking Hardpoints                       16,000.00
 Grav Deck #1:  (55-meter diameter)                                  50.00
 Grav Decks #2:  (80-meter diameter)                                 50.00
 Life Boats:  69 (7 tons each)                                      483.00
 
 Crew and Passengers:
    65 Officers (65 minimum)                                        650.00
    136 Crew (136 minimum)                                          952.00
    154 Gunners (154 minimum)                                     1,078.00
    100 Marines                                                     500.00
    26 Marine Battle Armor Troopers/Elementals                      182.00
    70 Bay Personnel                                                   .00
 
 Weapons and Equipment       Loc      SRV   MRV   LRV   ERV  Heat    Mass
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 2 Medium N-Gauss (20 rounds)Nose      50    50    50    50   30 11,008.00
 10 Light NPPC               Nose      70    70    70    -- 1050 14,000.00
 4 NL45                      FL/R      36    36    36    36  560  7,200.00
   4 NL45                                                    560  7,200.00
 4 AR10 ()                   FL/R       *     *     *     *   80  1,000.00
 4 Light NPPC                FL/R      56    56    56    --  840 11,200.00
   4 Light NPPC                                              840 11,200.00
 8 Light NPPC                L/RBS     56    56    56    -- 1680 22,400.00
 10 NL35                     L/RBS     70    70    70    -- 1040 14,000.00
   10 NL35                                                  1040 14,000.00
 4 NL45                      AL/R      36    36    36    36  560  7,200.00
   4 NL45                                                    560  7,200.00
 4 AR10 ()                   AL/R       *     *     *     *   80  1,000.00
 4 Light NPPC                AL/R      56    56    56    --  840 11,200.00
   4 Light NPPC                                              840 11,200.00
 6 Light NPPC                Aft       42    42    42    --  630  8,400.00
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 TOTALS:                                       Heat: 11,390     780,000.00
 Tons Left:                                                            .00
 
 Calculated Factors:
 Total Cost:        45,847,776,000 C-Bills
 Battle Value:      141,041
 Cost per BV:       325,067.01
 Weapon Value:      754,070 (Ratio = 5.35)
 Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 4,388;  MRDmg = 0;  LRDmg = 0;  ERDmg = 0
 BattleForce2:      Not applicable
 
 
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 Karagin
 
 Only the dead have seen the end of war. - Plato
 
 [ This Message was edited by: Karagin on 2002-07-10 00:46 ]
  [ This Message was edited by: Karagin on 2002-07-10 00:47 ] _________________ Karagin Only the dead have seen the end of war. - Plato
  "Wasted trip Man. Nobody said nuthin' about lockin' horns with no tigers." Oddball 
								
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					Black_Phoenix Clan Nova Cat Star Colonel
  
 
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								 Posted: 10-Jul-2002 11:51    Post subject: Warship :Hero Class Ethan Allen | 
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								That is a mean-a$$ design. Only two ammo weapons, even better. Just think of the fun you could have hunting dropships with it.  
 
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  [ This Message was edited by: Black_Phoenix on 2002-07-10 11:51 ] _________________ History is much like an endless waltz. The three beats of war, peace and revolution continue on forever.
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					Jade_Dragon 8th Sword of Light Sho-sho
  
 
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								 Posted: 12-Jul-2002 09:59    Post subject: Warship :Hero Class Ethan Allen | 
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								You need to adjust the bay damage numbers, you have the same numbers for both 8 and 4 Light NPPCs and for 10 Light NPPCs and 10 NL35s.
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					Karagin Imperial Karagin Army Imperial General
  
 
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								 Posted: 12-Jul-2002 11:01    Post subject: Warship :Hero Class Ethan Allen | 
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								What are you taking about? You lost me. Adjust what?
 
 Each side has the same number of weapons with the expection of the nose and aft.
 
 
  _________________ Karagin Only the dead have seen the end of war. - Plato
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					Jade_Dragon 8th Sword of Light Sho-sho
  
 
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								 Posted: 12-Jul-2002 17:48    Post subject: Warship :Hero Class Ethan Allen | 
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								4 Light NPPC                FL/R      56    56    56    --  840 11,200.00
   4 Light NPPC                                              840 11,200.00
 8 Light NPPC                L/RBS     56    56    56    -- 1680 22,400.00
 
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					Rick Raisley HeavyMetal MechMeister
  
 
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								 Posted: 12-Jul-2002 22:46    Post subject: Warship :Hero Class Ethan Allen | 
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 On 2002-07-12 17:48, Jade_Dragon wrote:
 4 Light NPPC                FL/R      56    56    56    --  840 11,200.00
   4 Light NPPC                                              840 11,200.00
 8 Light NPPC                L/RBS     56    56    56    -- 1680 22,400.00
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 The values are correct. The indented weapons indicate additional weapons of the same type in the same bay. So the first example had 4 + 4 = 8 Light NPPCs, with a total AV for the bay of 56, and the second example has 8 Light NPPCs, with a total AV of 56. They're just listed separately. HMAero allows you to enter weapons individually or by quantity in a by, so you /could/ put 8 single weapons or one weapon with a quantity of 8, but they're both the same thing. Karagin just entered those two bays a bit differently, but they're both practically the same and therefore have the same AV.
 
 The other examples you gave are the same thing. Anytime multiple weapons are located in the same bay, the AV is total for all of them, and any weapons beyond the first are listed on indented lines, as was done in TR:3067.
 
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					Rick Raisley HeavyMetal MechMeister
  
 
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								 Posted: 12-Jul-2002 22:48    Post subject: Warship :Hero Class Ethan Allen | 
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 On 2002-07-12 09:59, Jade_Dragon wrote:
 You need to adjust the bay damage numbers, you have the same numbers for both 8 and 4 Light NPPCs and for 10 Light NPPCs and 10 NL35s.
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 Oh, and the above example, if you look closely, has one bay with 10 Light NPPCs and another with 20 NL35s, which in fact have the same AV.
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					Jade_Dragon 8th Sword of Light Sho-sho
  
 
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								 Posted: 13-Jul-2002 15:28    Post subject: Warship :Hero Class Ethan Allen | 
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								Not knowing that makes it looks like the poster is throughing typos around.
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					Rick Raisley HeavyMetal MechMeister
  
 
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								 Posted: 13-Jul-2002 16:12    Post subject: Warship :Hero Class Ethan Allen | 
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								Maybe, but then TR:3067 must be confusing as well, as the bays are listed in exactly the same way there.  
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					Karagin Imperial Karagin Army Imperial General
  
 
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								 Posted: 15-Jul-2002 18:19    Post subject: Warship :Hero Class Ethan Allen | 
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 On 2002-07-13 15:28, Jade_Dragon wrote:
 Not knowing that makes it looks like the poster is throughing typos around.
 
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 Excuse me?
 
 What are you talking about?
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					CommieM Clan Nova Cat Point Commander
  
 
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								 Posted: 15-Jul-2002 19:03    Post subject: Warship :Hero Class Ethan Allen | 
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								bottom line:
 
 Mean, I mean just dam vicious.  Impressive design.
 
 Hate to be in a dropship inbound with this thing in front of the target.
 
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					Karagin Imperial Karagin Army Imperial General
  
 
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								 Posted: 15-Jul-2002 21:18    Post subject: Warship :Hero Class Ethan Allen | 
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 On 2002-07-15 19:03, CommieM wrote:
 bottom line:
 
 Mean, I mean just dam vicious.  Impressive design.
 
 Hate to be in a dropship inbound with this thing in front of the target.
 
 CommieM Kotare
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 Thanks. I am working on an improved version and I hope to have more from that class done up in the future.
  _________________ Karagin Only the dead have seen the end of war. - Plato
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					Sir Henry Team Bansai Senior Tech Specialist
  
 
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								 Posted: 15-Jul-2002 21:37    Post subject: Warship :Hero Class Ethan Allen | 
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								Light NPPC?????
 
 What will they think of next.
 
 
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					Karagin Imperial Karagin Army Imperial General
  
 
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								 Posted: 15-Jul-2002 22:04    Post subject: Warship :Hero Class Ethan Allen | 
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								Yes Light Naval PPCs...now if we could only get capital ECM and Active Probe type systems... 
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					Jade_Dragon 8th Sword of Light Sho-sho
  
 
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								 Posted: 16-Jul-2002 09:56    Post subject: Warship :Hero Class Ethan Allen | 
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 On 2002-07-13 16:12, Rick Raisley wrote:
 Maybe, but then TR:3067 must be confusing as well, as the bays are listed in exactly the same way there.  
 
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 Considering I do not have that sourcebook at this point in time only furthers my point of view.
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