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PostPosted: 20-Sep-2003 04:16    Post subject: Interresting information Reply to topic Reply with quote

A friend of mine sent me this and I figured that it might be of interest here.


I'm sure quite a few of you that I'm sending this email to, grew up with
Captain Kangaroo, as our children probably did. I knew nothing of his
background, only that his show was both entertaining, educational, and as
kids,
we looked forward to it with great anticipation. Captain Kangaroo turned
76
recently, which is odd, because he's never looked a day under 76.
(DOB:6/27/27)
I heard the following story about Lee Marvin and the Capt. before, and
maybe
you did too, but it's always good to read something positive for a change,
and
the story about Mr. Rogers is new to me, so I hope you enjoy it as much as
I
did.

Some people have been a bit offended that the actor, Lee Marvin, is buried
in a
grave alongside 3 and 4 star generals at Arlington National Cemetery. His
marker gives his name, rank (PVT.) and service (USMC). Nothing else.
Here's a
guy who was only a famous movie star who served his time....why does he
rate
burial with 4 star generals? Well, following is the amazing answer:

I always liked Lee Marvin, but did not know the extent of his Corps
experiences. In a time when many Hollywood stars served their country in
the
armed forces, often in rear-echelon posts where they were carefully
protected,
only to be trotted out to perform for the cameras in war bond promotions,
Lee
Marvin was a genuine hero. He won the Navy Cross at Iwo Jima. There is
only one
higher Naval award ... the Medal Of Honor. If that is a surprising comment
on
the true character of the man, he credits his sergeant with an even
greater
show of bravery.

Dialog from The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson: His guest was Lee Marvin.
Johnny said, "Lee, I'll bet a lot of people are unaware that you were a
Marine
in the initial landing at Iwo Jima ... and that during the course of that
action you earned the Navy Cross and were severely wounded." "Yeah,
yeah... I
got shot square in the ass and they gave me the Cross for securing a hot
spot
about halfway up Suribachi...bad thing about getting shot up on a mountain
is
guys gettin' shot hauling you down. But Johnny, at Iwo I served under the
bravest man I ever knew... We both got the Cross the same day, but what he
did
for his Cross made mine look cheap in comparison. The dumb b----- actually
stood up on Red beach and directed his troops to move forward and get the
hell
off the beach. That Sergeant and I have been lifelong friends.

When they brought me off Suribachi we passed the Sergeant and he lit a
smoke
and passed it to me, lying on my belly on the litter, and said, 'Where'd
they
get you Lee?' "Well, Bob ... if you make it home before me, tell Mom to
sell
the outhouse!" " Johnny, I'm not lying... Sergeant Keeshan was the bravest
man
I ever knew..... Bob Keeshan... You and the world know him as Captain
Kangaroo."

On another note, there was this wimpy little man (who just passed away) on
PBS,
gentle and quiet. Mr. Rogers is another of those you would least suspect
of
being anything but what he now portrays to our youth. But Mr. Rogers was a
U.S.
Navy Seal, combat proven in Vietnam with over twenty-five confirmed kills
to
his name. He wore a long sleeve sweater to cover the many tattoo's on his
forearm and biceps. A master in small arms and hand-to-hand combat, able
to
disarm or kill in a heartbeat. He hid that away and won our hearts with
his
quiet wit and charm. America's real heroes don't flaunt what they did,
they
quietly go about their day to day lives, doing what they do best. They
earned
our respect and the freedoms that we all enjoy.

Look around and see if you can find one of those heroes in your midst.
Often,
they are the ones you'd least suspect, but would most like to have on your
side
if anything ever happened.

Just a side note, Mr. Rogers was also an ordained Presbyterian minister.
--
George Vantine
The older we get, the fewer things
seem worth waiting in line for.






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PostPosted: 20-Sep-2003 08:09    Post subject: RE: Interresting information Reply to topic Reply with quote

Well I'll be. I knew about Lee Marvin, but no about the Captain and Mister Rogers. That's really cool.

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PostPosted: 20-Sep-2003 08:26    Post subject: RE: Interresting information Reply to topic Reply with quote

It takes but 15 seconds to check stuff like that out. Like a good "Urban Legends", these contains just enough true info to make the claims seem legit.

This debunks the Marvin/Capt Kangaroo portion:

http://www.snopes.com/military/keeshan.htm

This debunks the Mr Rogers info:

http://www.snopes.com/radiotv/tv/mrrogers.asp

Now you know why I consider 50% of all personal e-mail SPAM.

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PostPosted: 20-Sep-2003 08:47    Post subject: RE: Interresting information Reply to topic Reply with quote

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On 2003-09-20 08:26, chihawk wrote:
It takes but 15 seconds to check stuff like that out. Like a good "Urban Legends", these contains just enough true info to make the claims seem legit.


Bastards! Whew...I'm glad that I didn't admit to watching either one or that they were my hero's either!

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PostPosted: 20-Sep-2003 11:58    Post subject: RE: Interresting information Reply to topic Reply with quote

That is what I like about this place, strict reality all the way.............

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PostPosted: 20-Sep-2003 13:52    Post subject: RE: Interresting information Reply to topic Reply with quote

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On 2003-09-20 08:26, chihawk wrote:
It takes but 15 seconds to check stuff like that out. Like a good "Urban Legends", these contains just enough true info to make the claims seem legit.

This debunks the Marvin/Capt Kangaroo portion:

http://www.snopes.com/military/keeshan.htm

This debunks the Mr Rogers info:

http://www.snopes.com/radiotv/tv/mrrogers.asp

Now you know why I consider 50% of all personal e-mail SPAM.

Well looks like it is time to cut and paste and send a return E-Mail *shrugs*

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PostPosted: 21-Sep-2003 15:44    Post subject: RE: Interresting information Reply to topic Reply with quote

enh, shtuff happens, eh?
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PostPosted: 22-Sep-2003 01:16    Post subject: RE: Interresting information Reply to topic Reply with quote

One Thing about this place there seems to be quite an investigational department here that will ferrit out inaccuracys like this.

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PostPosted: 22-Sep-2003 01:48    Post subject: RE: Interresting information Reply to topic Reply with quote

It's a proud tradition.

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PostPosted: 22-Sep-2003 03:03    Post subject: RE: Interresting information Reply to topic Reply with quote

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On 2003-09-22 01:16, Motown Scrapper wrote:
One Thing about this place there seems to be quite an investigational department here that will ferrit out inaccuracys like this.



Yes, The Wolfnet as nothing compared to chihawk

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PostPosted: 22-Sep-2003 06:10    Post subject: RE: Interresting information Reply to topic Reply with quote

I get that e-mail so often that I had those 2 bookmarked.

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PostPosted: 22-Sep-2003 08:16    Post subject: RE: Interresting information Reply to topic Reply with quote

Mr. Rogers couldn't have been a Seal. He was Color-blind. An assistant would pick out his clothes. If the assistant didn't, you could tell....



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PostPosted: 22-Sep-2003 16:25    Post subject: RE: Interresting information Reply to topic Reply with quote

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On 2003-09-22 08:16, Sir Henry wrote:
Mr. Rogers couldn't have been a Seal. He was Color-blind. An assistant would pick out his clothes. If the assistant didn't, you could tell....



He was also 80% deaf in one ear due to an infection when he was younger...both eliminate him from being in the special forces.

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PostPosted: 24-Sep-2003 23:37    Post subject: RE: Interresting information Reply to topic Reply with quote

Well, since we're dropping urban myths in their tracks in this thread here's another to check out.

During WWII our submarines had a lot of trouble in the first year or two due to the crappy torpedoes they were using, the Germans and Japanese torpedoes were much better and hardly ever failed to go off right as ours very frequently failed to do.

Eventually this problem was fixed and our torpedoes became very reliable when a new guidance device was devised from a children's toy, a gyroscope.

I have always heard that it was Eddie Albert, of Green Acres fame who made that invention and thus saved quite a few submarine crews from getting killed trying to use bad torpedoes. He served in the Navy, in submarines and I think at the time he solved the problem he was a LT. or Lt. JG. If I remember right he is supposed to have ended the war as a Lt. Commander.
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