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 Posted: 10-Mar-2002 10:50 Post subject: The thing about Btech that really hacks me off. |
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The thing I liked about Btech was that in the original story mechs were valuable assetts in and of themselves. Families handed them down from one generation to the next. The fear of begin dispossesed always lurked in the background for the mechwarrior families. Much like the knights of medieval Europe.
Light mechs were supposed to be relatively plentiful, medium mechs were the workhorses, heavies scarce and assault mechs were seldom seen, but things to be feared when the did show.
Anybody remember saying, "Oh shit, they've got an Awesome!" and meaning it?
I recall setting up a scenario where light lances were fighting it out because the salvageable carcass of a Stalker was at stake.
After the Gray Death library was found and the latest succession war was fought it seems that every house started cranking out battlemechs.
Currently there are 297 heavy mech designs or variants. 297!!! Even worse, there are 250 assault mechs or variants. What the hell happened to limited production facilities? Did the noble houses pull mech factories out of their asses?
Opinions?
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Karagin
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| Posted: 10-Mar-2002 11:04 Post subject: The thing about Btech that really hacks me off. |
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There is close to like 408 mechs without counting variants or alternate configs for the omnis...
Some where along the way the tech boom pushed the storyline idea of disppossed as being really bad to something of an incoviences...
And as for the mech factories, just add water to one mech and you get a new factory...complete with lostech items and SKILLED workers all there to run it for you.
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CampingCarl
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| Posted: 10-Mar-2002 13:23 Post subject: The thing about Btech that really hacks me off. |
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"Did the noble houses pull mech factories out of their asses?"
They pulled out more than factories. They went from lvl 1 tech to tech that equals the clans in just 10 years (3050-3060). It took the clans how long to get this far?
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Sir Henry
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| Posted: 10-Mar-2002 18:54 Post subject: The thing about Btech that really hacks me off. |
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I'd like to see that....
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| Posted: 12-Mar-2002 01:38 Post subject: The thing about Btech that really hacks me off. |
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pinkfloyd214
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| Posted: 12-Mar-2002 19:06 Post subject: The thing about Btech that really hacks me off. |
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Hardware you have to realize that the btech universe is just a game put out by a company. and the only way to keep that company going was to pump out newer and better(lol)mechs. Also take in consideration that as these new mechs came out,these Factories where shutting down the old lines to retool them for the newer mechs, and of course their are new corperations out there as well.
As far as the IS pumping out newer tech, hell they capture the prototypes and reverse engineer it and whalla everybody has clan PPC's. it was only a matter of time
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| Posted: 12-Mar-2002 19:14 Post subject: The thing about Btech that really hacks me off. |
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LOL...Hardware has been playing this game since it was Battledroids (or at least damn close to that  )
He's looking for a "game" reason why it was possible...
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Sir Henry
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| Posted: 12-Mar-2002 19:25 Post subject: The thing about Btech that really hacks me off. |
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Because......Because.........Let me get back to you on that.
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| Posted: 12-Mar-2002 20:14 Post subject: The thing about Btech that really hacks me off. |
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Dear Hardware........ We must have been kin seperated at birth. I can give a couple of factors that may have lead to a surge but a renianssance of Mech Warfare, Hardly.
1) Comstar did not have as tight grip on the technology as we thought they did. Or maybe some other faction was trying to release the technology to help them cleanse the sickness eating up Comstar.
2) NAIS and the likes have a much bigger impact then we think. Look even in modern times how a single place can lead to a bunch of innovations.
3) War leads to major innovations. Getting slaughtered leads to desperation. So the Clanners would have booting things in the ass ASAP, but the mega facilites would not have exisited.
4) Cool stuff found in the deep Pheriphery that never gets mentioned in the books. What would happen if someone stumbled across on of the Dragoons backup caches.
All in all not great but plausable for a surge. A great example of the insane growth..... Cappella after the 4th Succession War. Just add water and Presto instant military industrial complex.
AWAD- I can not even name any mechs from 3060
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Horhiro
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| Posted: 12-Mar-2002 20:27 Post subject: The thing about Btech that really hacks me off. |
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Anybody remember saying, "Oh shit, they've got an Awesome!" and meaning it?
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I recal Ardan Sortek kind of saying that in the novel "Sword and the Dagger". And he was even piloting a Victor at the time. HA!
Then again,way back when, the first time you threw 2 Archers against our rookie ShadHawk and Griff pilots, I think I said the same thing " oh s***!"
I agree that the Btech universe was way cooler as a era of technological decay (3025). "Life is cheap, 'Mech are not", just doesn't have the same ring to it in 3067.
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| Posted: 12-Mar-2002 20:47 Post subject: The thing about Btech that really hacks me off. |
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Truer words were never spoken.
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| Posted: 17-Mar-2002 21:21 Post subject: The thing about Btech that really hacks me off. |
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Well to be fair...
...no, FASA screwed the pooch on it. 
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Sir Henry
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| Posted: 17-Mar-2002 21:29 Post subject: The thing about Btech that really hacks me off. |
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You know it's not nice to say things about the dead.....wether they're true or not.
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| Posted: 17-Mar-2002 21:32 Post subject: The thing about Btech that really hacks me off. |
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On 2002-03-17 21:29, Sir Henry wrote:
You know it's not nice to say things about the dead.....wether they're true or not.
Sir HEnry
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But, but, but...the dead can't defend themselves. They are the perfect target
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Sir Henry
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| Posted: 17-Mar-2002 21:37 Post subject: The thing about Btech that really hacks me off. |
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You never heard of Haunting??? Let's see you sleep, with the Ghost of FASA howling at you all night...
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