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bandit
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 Posted: 29-May-2004 06:01 Post subject: Politis and religio in 31st century |
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Reading Fed Com civil war,I saw in the atlas
the description of variuos planets.
X example reading about New Avalon is
mentioned that is the center of Catholic
Church.
I was thinking instead that Comstar was
a sort of Religious organization.
I read also the ebrew colonized Robinson.
I knew that Arkab Legion was/are muslim.
They got also a center?(like Mecca in present)
And what about buddhist?
And billion of indu ?
Anyway i think that basically armys move
in a laicity(in BT) contest,and economical interest.
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chihawk
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| Posted: 29-May-2004 07:17 Post subject: RE: Politis and religio in 31st century |
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WARNING:
These are two topics that are generally not allowed to be discussed on the public forums for obvious reasons.
All long as the posts on this topic relate to the Battletech universe we'll leave this open. As soon as it strays into the "real world" action will be taken.
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Vampire
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| Posted: 29-May-2004 07:30 Post subject: RE: Politis and religio in 31st century |
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All the information about the religions in the Inner Sphere can be found in the House Sourcebooks.
The Draconis Combine and the Capellan Confederation have state sponsored religions and philosophies and repress others.
The other Houses have more or less religious freedom, though House Davion couldn't resist the temptation to manipulate religion for political gain with its sponsorship of the schismatic New Avalon Catholic Church and the Unfinished Book movement. So I would place them in third place.
The Lyran Commonwealth and the Free Worlds League are the most materialistic states and the more religious tolerant.
But you are right in that the Successor States don't fight wars of religion (like Protestants vs Catholics in the 30 Years War in Europe) , religion is of varying political importance for each state, but not very much.
There is religious conflict in some planets where two different religions clash, but that's at the level of internal unrest, though sometimes it gets to the level of civil war forcing the intervention of the House government.
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Nightmare
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| Posted: 29-May-2004 10:16 Post subject: RE: Politis and religio in 31st century |
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On 2004-05-29 07:30, Vampire wrote:
But you are right in that the Successor States don't fight wars of religion (like Protestants vs Catholics in the 30 Years War in Europe) , religion is of varying political importance for each state, but not very much.
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Wars of religion are seldom purely about religion anyway. Even if the 30-year War is seen as religious, catholic France supported protestant Sweden... Anything to neuter the rising German cities disturbing French policy.
But back to BattleTech: The only religious reference that really stood out, IMO, was the Arkab worlds in the Combine. Permission to keep their religion and autonomy in exchange for military service. That strikes me as remarkably feudal, in the practical sense. I could easily imagine more deals like that.
I'd imagine the Successor Lords have more pressing problems than faith. Most of the realms seem to allow anything that doesn't threaten their stability. Else they have to spend a lot of effort on repressing forbidden cults. In the end, it's still an excersize in book-keeping, not faith. Whatever the ruler thinks will bring more power to his realm is used.
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bandit
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| Posted: 29-May-2004 11:34 Post subject: RE: Politis and religio in 31st century |
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 sorry ,I didn't thought
was so" hot" discussion..  
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chihawk
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| Posted: 29-May-2004 11:51 Post subject: RE: Politis and religio in 31st century |
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On 2004-05-29 11:34, bandit wrote:
sorry ,I didn't thought
was so" hot" discussion..
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Not an issue if everyone keeps the discussion "on topic"...
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| Posted: 29-May-2004 16:07 Post subject: RE: Politis and religio in 31st century |
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There are generally two topics of conversation I find almost always ends up in heated debates with tempers falre, and that's Politics and Religion. That's why those are kept to the Saloon.
Now, we can talk about Politics and Religion and how it works itself into the BattleTech universe, and that is perfectly fine, so long as people keep the conversation in the BT universe and don't bring it out.
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-Mud
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| Posted: 29-May-2004 19:24 Post subject: RE: Politis and religio in 31st century |
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I always felt Comstar represented the most powerful "religious" force in the battletech universe. Although the Doctrine of Blake doesn't fit our modern ideas of what a religion is, Comstar certainly exploits a pseudo-religious rhetoric to it's own advantage. Anyone who has studied ancient religions knows how much the doctrinal and social boundaries of what we call "religion" has changed over the past 3000 years. It's certainly not hard to believe that it could continue to evolve into forms alien to what we today consider to be religious. (trying to be circumspect here, given that this isn't the Saloon)
The one objection to calling the Doctrine of Blake a religion is that he makes no explicit reference to any God. It does however fulfill a function very much parallel to the role played by the Catholic and Byzantine Orthodox Churches in the Middle Ages, insofar as it serves as the repository of ancient knowledge.
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