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								|  Posted: 24-Apr-2005 12:31    Post subject: Fist MBT |     |  
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								| Fist MBT
 IS heavy tracked vehicle - level2
 tonnage:                                          75t
 internal structure:                           7.5t
 engine:             225 fusion               15t
 MP 3/5
 heat-sinks:        single         10          0t cockpit:                                              4t
 turret:                                                1t
 armor: standard 208                        13t
 armor
 front:        50
 R/L side: 37/37
 rear:         34
 turret:       50
 Weapons and ammo allocation tonnage
 heavy gauss                  front            18t
 heavy gauss (16)          body              4t
 2 ER laser (M)               turret             2t
 streak SRM-6                turret          4.5t
 streak SRM-6 (15)          body             1t
 targeting computer        body             5t
 
 Fist embodies Lyran fascination with big guns. With heaviest gun available (not including heavy artillery). Built for close-range firepower, Fist carries heavy gauss rifle, and streak SRM-6 pack as main weapons and two imported medium ER lasers for backup. This tank relies heavily on infantry and other vehicles for long range and anti-infantry fire support.
 
 Any suggestions?
 
 
 [ This Message was edited by: Sleeping Dragon on 2005-05-08 12:35 ]
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					| Delta Lyran Alliance
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								|  Posted: 24-Apr-2005 12:36    Post subject: RE: Fist MBT |     |  
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								| Excellent. Remind me to add some of these to my unit if I ever make a RCT... |  | 
				
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					| Coyot3 Lyran Alliance
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								|  Posted: 24-Apr-2005 12:48    Post subject: RE: Fist MBT |     |  
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								| OUCH! Heavy Gauss... good for close in with the Streak 6 _________________
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					| StarRaven Federated Suns
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								|  Posted: 24-Apr-2005 13:35    Post subject: RE: Fist MBT |     |  
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								| Nice. Although I'm not sure about the targeting computer on a Lyran tank. 
 Also, the heavy gauss rifle may not be mounted in the turret of a tank. I'd suggest moving it to the front, and moving the Streak rack to the turret.
 
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								|  Posted: 24-Apr-2005 13:40    Post subject: RE: Fist MBT |     |  
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								| Thanks, I don't have rules for hvy. gauss, just what I saw elsewhere. Already correcting. 
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					| StarRaven Federated Suns
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								|  Posted: 24-Apr-2005 13:51    Post subject: RE: Fist MBT |     |  
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								| Ok. From FM: Lyran Alliance, the heavy gauss rifle. I've summarized, becasuse I don't feel like typing word for word. 
 18 tons, 11 crits, 4 shots per ton
 Heat:2
 Range: 6/13/20 (min 4)
 Damage: 25/20/10 (damage depends on range)
 
 Only units with fusion engines may mount HGRs. HGRs may only be mounted in the torso of BattleMechs, and the front or rear of vehicles. If a 'Mech moves and fires an HGR in the same turn, it must make a piloting roll; -1 modifier for assault weight, 0 for hravy, +1 for medium, +2 for light. A crit on an HGR causes it to explode for 25 damage. If the HGR is split between a side torso and the CT, CASE in the side torso will prevent damage transfer to the CT.
 
 
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								|  Posted: 24-Apr-2005 13:56    Post subject: RE: Fist MBT |     |  
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								| Thanks again.   
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								|  Posted: 24-Apr-2005 13:59    Post subject: RE: Fist MBT |     |  
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								| You're welcome. 
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					| Erenon Blighted Sun Battalion
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								|  Posted: 24-Apr-2005 17:52    Post subject: RE: Fist MBT |     |  
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								| I question the presence of a targeting computer... 
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					| bladewind Free Rasalhague Republic
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								|  Posted: 25-Apr-2005 01:15    Post subject: RE: Fist MBT |     |  
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								| Arent targetting computers only Davion pieces of equipment ? 
 They are not widespread enough and will never fall into the hands of Lyran forces.
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								|  Posted: 25-Apr-2005 01:31    Post subject: RE: Fist MBT |     |  
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								| Everything will fall in wrong hands (non DC hands) once. 
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								|  Posted: 25-Apr-2005 03:44    Post subject: RE: Fist MBT |     |  
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								| The wobbies have it as well, they stole it form the FedSuns.. The FedSuns seems to have some access to C3 networks, quite a number of their vehicles seem to have C3 slaves or master systems..  odd..
 
 
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					| bladewind Free Rasalhague Republic
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								|  Posted: 25-Apr-2005 04:29    Post subject: RE: Fist MBT |     |  
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								| not really odd.  For example, the new Partisan ATA (anti-air artillery) unit actually uses a Kallon C3 slave units which indicate that Kallon Industries has already reverse engineered C3 tech for the Davions grubby hands. 
 
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					| StarRaven Federated Suns
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								|  Posted: 25-Apr-2005 04:32    Post subject: RE: Fist MBT |     |  
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								| Actually, it's my understanding that the Dracs sold C3 to everyone. C3 is the only one of the new faction specific technologies developed before 3060. As I recall, the Dracs sold C3 to most everyone (Cappies use it to, a bit) during the 3050s, when everyone was trying to get along against the Clans. 
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					| bladewind Free Rasalhague Republic
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								|  Posted: 25-Apr-2005 07:13    Post subject: RE: Fist MBT |     |  
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								| well, the Dracs sold Omnitech too.... but the other Houses are slow to pick up.
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