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Stinger
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 Posted: 07-Sep-2005 13:02 Post subject: Looking for a Dropship design. |
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Ok everyone with HMAero (no I dont have it yet) I am looking for a drop ship design that will run around top tier weight with excellent armor coverage and decent heavy fire power. I am looking for a Davion design with no RACs and mabey above average speed.
No need to worry about the fluff as I have most of that written already. The biggest thing is that it needs to have 2 Bays that units can launch from at ground level and 2 bays for aerospace conventional and Vtol's. It will be a highly specialized dropship used to carry naval assets of every weight.
I have a interesting scenario that has been forming in my mind now and just need to work some things out but I need the new design to help finish it.
Thanks in Advance
Stinger
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StarRaven
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| Posted: 07-Sep-2005 14:30 Post subject: RE: Looking for a Dropship design. |
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All right. How does this fit with what you're after?
AeroTech 2 Vessel Technical Readout
VALIDATED
Class/Model/Name: Navy Dropper
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3067
Vessel Type: Spheroid DropShip
Rules: Level 2, Standard design
Rules Set: AeroTech2
Mass: 90,000 tons
Length: 231 meters
Power Plant: Standard
Safe Thrust: 6
Maximum Thrust: 9
Armor Type: Kallon AeroWeave Ferro-aluminum
Armament:
48 Johnston High Speed ER PPC
36 Mydron Excel LB 10-X AC
36 Sutel Precision Line Large Pulse Laser
36 Poland Main Model A Gauss Rifle
36 Valiant Ballista LRM 20+ArtIV
48 Harpoon 6-S Streak SRM 6
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Class/Model/Name: Navy Dropper
Mass: 90,000 tons
Equipment: Mass
Power Plant, Drive & Control: 35,100.00
Thrust: Safe Thrust: 6
Maximum Thrust: 9
Structural Integrity: 200 36,000.00
Total Heat Sinks: 796 Double 308.00
Fuel & Fuel Pumps: 861.00
Bridge, Controls, Radar, Computer & Attitude Thrusters: 675.00
Fire Control Computers: 630.00
Food & Water: (160 days supply) 526.00
Armor Type: Ferro-aluminum (5,638 total armor pts) 720.00
Standard Scale Armor Pts
Location: L / R
Fore: 1,608
Left/Right Sides: 1,409/1,409
Aft: 1,212
Cargo:
Bay 1: Fighters (20) with 8 doors 3,000.00
Conv. Fighters (1+1) (12) with 4 doors 600.00
VTOLs (2+1) (12) with 4 doors 600.00
Bay 2: Heavy Vehicles (51-100T) (24) with 6 doors 2,400.00
Light Vehicles (to 50T) (24) with 6 doors 1,200.00
Bay 3: Ships (40) (4) with 4 doors 2,220.00
Bay 4: Cargo (1) with 6 doors 2,000.00
Crew and Passengers:
15 Officers (14 minimum) 150.00
25 Crew (7 minimum) 175.00
45 Gunners (40 minimum) 315.00
572 Bay Personnel .00
Weapons and Equipment Loc SRV MRV LRV ERV Heat Mass
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2 ER PPC Nose 2(20) 2(20) 2(20) -- 30 14.00
2 ER PPC Nose 2(20) 2(20) 2(20) -- 30 14.00
2 ER PPC Nose 2(20) 2(20) 2(20) -- 30 14.00
2 ER PPC Nose 2(20) 2(20) 2(20) -- 30 14.00
2 LB 10-X AC(30 rounds) Nose 1(12) 1(12) -- -- 4 25.00
2 LB 10-X AC(30 rounds) Nose 1(12) 1(12) -- -- 4 25.00
2 LB 10-X AC(30 rounds) Nose 1(12) 1(12) -- -- 4 25.00
2 Large Pulse Laser Nose 2(18) 2(18) -- -- 20 14.00
2 Large Pulse Laser Nose 2(18) 2(18) -- -- 20 14.00
2 Large Pulse Laser Nose 2(18) 2(18) -- -- 20 14.00
2 Gauss Rifle(40 rounds) Nose 3(30) 3(30) 3(30) -- 2 35.00
2 Gauss Rifle(40 rounds) Nose 3(30) 3(30) 3(30) -- 2 35.00
2 Gauss Rifle(40 rounds) Nose 3(30) 3(30) 3(30) -- 2 35.00
2 LRM 20+ArtIV(36 rounds) Nose 3(32) 3(32) 3(32) -- 12 28.00
2 LRM 20+ArtIV(36 rounds) Nose 3(32) 3(32) 3(32) -- 12 28.00
2 LRM 20+ArtIV(36 rounds) Nose 3(32) 3(32) 3(32) -- 12 28.00
2 Streak SRM 6(45 rounds) Nose 2(24) -- -- -- 8 12.00
2 Streak SRM 6(45 rounds) Nose 2(24) -- -- -- 8 12.00
2 Streak SRM 6(45 rounds) Nose 2(24) -- -- -- 8 12.00
2 Streak SRM 6(45 rounds) Nose 2(24) -- -- -- 8 12.00
2 ER PPC FL/R 2(20) 2(20) 2(20) -- 60 28.00
2 ER PPC FL/R 2(20) 2(20) 2(20) -- 60 28.00
2 ER PPC FL/R 2(20) 2(20) 2(20) -- 60 28.00
2 ER PPC FL/R 2(20) 2(20) 2(20) -- 60 28.00
2 LB 10-X AC(30 rounds) FL/R 1(12) 1(12) -- -- 8 50.00
2 LB 10-X AC(30 rounds) FL/R 1(12) 1(12) -- -- 8 50.00
2 LB 10-X AC(30 rounds) FL/R 1(12) 1(12) -- -- 8 50.00
2 Large Pulse Laser FL/R 2(18) 2(18) -- -- 40 28.00
2 Large Pulse Laser FL/R 2(18) 2(18) -- -- 40 28.00
2 Large Pulse Laser FL/R 2(18) 2(18) -- -- 40 28.00
2 Gauss Rifle(40 rounds) FL/R 3(30) 3(30) 3(30) -- 4 70.00
2 Gauss Rifle(40 rounds) FL/R 3(30) 3(30) 3(30) -- 4 70.00
2 Gauss Rifle(40 rounds) FL/R 3(30) 3(30) 3(30) -- 4 70.00
2 LRM 20+ArtIV(36 rounds) FL/R 3(32) 3(32) 3(32) -- 24 56.00
2 LRM 20+ArtIV(36 rounds) FL/R 3(32) 3(32) 3(32) -- 24 56.00
2 LRM 20+ArtIV(36 rounds) FL/R 3(32) 3(32) 3(32) -- 24 56.00
2 Streak SRM 6(45 rounds) FL/R 2(24) -- -- -- 16 24.00
2 Streak SRM 6(45 rounds) FL/R 2(24) -- -- -- 16 24.00
2 Streak SRM 6(45 rounds) FL/R 2(24) -- -- -- 16 24.00
2 Streak SRM 6(45 rounds) FL/R 2(24) -- -- -- 16 24.00
2 ER PPC AL/R 2(20) 2(20) 2(20) -- 60 28.00
2 ER PPC AL/R 2(20) 2(20) 2(20) -- 60 28.00
2 ER PPC AL/R 2(20) 2(20) 2(20) -- 60 28.00
2 ER PPC AL/R 2(20) 2(20) 2(20) -- 60 28.00
2 LB 10-X AC(30 rounds) AL/R 1(12) 1(12) -- -- 8 50.00
2 LB 10-X AC(30 rounds) AL/R 1(12) 1(12) -- -- 8 50.00
2 LB 10-X AC(30 rounds) AL/R 1(12) 1(12) -- -- 8 50.00
2 Large Pulse Laser AL/R 2(18) 2(18) -- -- 40 28.00
2 Large Pulse Laser AL/R 2(18) 2(18) -- -- 40 28.00
2 Large Pulse Laser AL/R 2(18) 2(18) -- -- 40 28.00
2 Gauss Rifle(40 rounds) AL/R 3(30) 3(30) 3(30) -- 4 70.00
2 Gauss Rifle(40 rounds) AL/R 3(30) 3(30) 3(30) -- 4 70.00
2 Gauss Rifle(40 rounds) AL/R 3(30) 3(30) 3(30) -- 4 70.00
2 LRM 20+ArtIV(36 rounds) AL/R 3(32) 3(32) 3(32) -- 24 56.00
2 LRM 20+ArtIV(36 rounds) AL/R 3(32) 3(32) 3(32) -- 24 56.00
2 LRM 20+ArtIV(36 rounds) AL/R 3(32) 3(32) 3(32) -- 24 56.00
2 Streak SRM 6(45 rounds) AL/R 2(24) -- -- -- 16 24.00
2 Streak SRM 6(45 rounds) AL/R 2(24) -- -- -- 16 24.00
2 Streak SRM 6(45 rounds) AL/R 2(24) -- -- -- 16 24.00
2 Streak SRM 6(45 rounds) AL/R 2(24) -- -- -- 16 24.00
2 ER PPC Aft 2(20) 2(20) 2(20) -- 30 14.00
2 ER PPC Aft 2(20) 2(20) 2(20) -- 30 14.00
2 ER PPC Aft 2(20) 2(20) 2(20) -- 30 14.00
2 ER PPC Aft 2(20) 2(20) 2(20) -- 30 14.00
2 LB 10-X AC(30 rounds) Aft 1(12) 1(12) -- -- 4 25.00
2 LB 10-X AC(30 rounds) Aft 1(12) 1(12) -- -- 4 25.00
2 LB 10-X AC(30 rounds) Aft 1(12) 1(12) -- -- 4 25.00
2 Large Pulse Laser Aft 2(18) 2(18) -- -- 20 14.00
2 Large Pulse Laser Aft 2(18) 2(18) -- -- 20 14.00
2 Large Pulse Laser Aft 2(18) 2(18) -- -- 20 14.00
2 Gauss Rifle(40 rounds) Aft 3(30) 3(30) 3(30) -- 2 35.00
2 Gauss Rifle(40 rounds) Aft 3(30) 3(30) 3(30) -- 2 35.00
2 Gauss Rifle(40 rounds) Aft 3(30) 3(30) 3(30) -- 2 35.00
2 LRM 20+ArtIV(36 rounds) Aft 3(32) 3(32) 3(32) -- 12 28.00
2 LRM 20+ArtIV(36 rounds) Aft 3(32) 3(32) 3(32) -- 12 28.00
2 LRM 20+ArtIV(36 rounds) Aft 3(32) 3(32) 3(32) -- 12 28.00
2 Streak SRM 6(45 rounds) Aft 2(24) -- -- -- 8 12.00
2 Streak SRM 6(45 rounds) Aft 2(24) -- -- -- 8 12.00
2 Streak SRM 6(45 rounds) Aft 2(24) -- -- -- 8 12.00
2 Streak SRM 6(45 rounds) Aft 2(24) -- -- -- 8 12.00
1 Lot Spare Parts (0.07%) 60.00
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TOTALS: Heat: 1,596 90,000.00
Tons Left: .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 4,505,288,928 C-Bills
Battle Value: 65,883
Cost per BV: 68,383.18
Weapon Value: 54,738 (Ratio = .83)
Damage Factors: SRV = 2,507; MRV = 1,602; LRV = 442; ERV = 0
Maintenance: Maintenance Point Value (MPV) = 3,034,872
(2,894,090 Structure, 103,050 Life Support, 37,732 Weapons)
Support Points (SP) = 99,035 (3% of MPV)
BattleForce2: MP: 6, Armor/Structure: 94 / 94
Damage PB/M/L: 91/72/53, Overheat: 0
Class: DL; Point Value: 659
Specials: sph
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Stinger
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| Posted: 07-Sep-2005 18:55 Post subject: RE: Looking for a Dropship design. |
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I LIKE! 
One question though. What is the heaviest vehicle you can get in there? I was hopeing for 555 tons and mabey the ability to get several of them in the drop ship as well.
Here is the basic story I am working on.
In 3061, 5 major water rich worlds in the Federated suns were captured by WoB forces. Before Davion could react to the threat WoB forces had heavily fortified the worlds and were easily able to thwart any attempt to retake the world. By 3063 WoB had started converting surrounding systems to thier control, the world went because they needed the water that WoB now controlled. Information that came in shortly after the worlds were seized, told the high command that WoB forces had moved in several massive naval cannons and mounted them in such a way as to have a decent field of fire. Months later when it became apparent that the locals were working against the WoB forces they moved in and shut down the stations. And since they couldnt get a sufficent mech force in their to get the worlds back (planetary assets were not up to par with the WoB forces) Davion High command started a very aggressive project to get a wet navy that could be deployed far away from the target and move in under the range of the naval grade weapons that now protected the island chains.
[ This Message was edited by: Stinger on 2005-09-07 19:08 ]
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StarRaven
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| Posted: 07-Sep-2005 22:43 Post subject: RE: Looking for a Dropship design. |
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Technically the heaviest vehicle is 100 tons. The Conv. Fighter and VTOL bays are custom entries, but they're little more than renamed light vehicle bays.
For ships/subs, I created my own custom bay. Each is 555 tons per unit, and adds 40 bay personnel (the default crew number for a 555 ton ship/sub according to HMVee). This is the next to last entry, before cargo. This isn't technically legal, but I figure that that doesn't truly matter if you want to make it legal for what you're doing. And it is derived from the standard, game legal bays. So yes; this has the ability to carry ships/subs. Four of them, in total. I could add more, but I'd have to lose something or make the DropShip heavier.
I myself pictured the naval ships/subs as being attached vertically to the exterior hull (with curved doors or half-cocoons for protection from space), and being dropped into the water as the DropShip hovers over the water. And, presumably, the hydrofoils would just be popped out of the vehicle bays and into the water. The only flaw with that is that it would be hard to load up and leave quickly, unless you have cranes. Hmmm... Now I want to allocate tonnage for cranes. But that's up to you. Besides, you might well have your own vision of the DropShip.
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Stinger
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| Posted: 08-Sep-2005 05:12 Post subject: RE: Looking for a Dropship design. |
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Cranes would be cool. Hmm Sorry didnt notice the ships being listed spearate that way my bad. No I think that adding the cranes may be all she needs.
I was seeing it as a cylinder shaped drop ship that would actually land in the water and partially flood the ship bays. This would allow the ships to be loaded using tugs and manuvering. When the dropship was ready to depart with them again it would then drain the bay and this would atually have a twofold purpose of putting the ships in drydock. The engines are mounted in such a way that when the Dropship comes into land they are out of the water and you dont have to worry about them. But kind of like the mammoth (the one with the engines mounted on the outside of the ship to the sides of the hulls. Like that but higher up. And the very bottom of the cylinder is resting in the water by say 40 feet.
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