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Sleeping Dragon
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 Posted: 02-Nov-2005 14:38 Post subject: User Review: 1A Class Instruction Mech SUPER-6000L |
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On 2005-11-02, StarRaven wrote:
Bravo. A 5 for fluff, certainly. This is pretty much every flaw one sees in a 'Mech, and should be mandatory reading for anyone new to designing.
And Mr. Killroy is a very strong argument for Clan-style, live-fire training.
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Not every flaw, it doesn't have weapon that lacks ammo to be really useful, it isn't over armored and over sinked (that would be counterproductive  )
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Stinger
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| Posted: 02-Nov-2005 15:14 Post subject: RE: User Review: 1A Class Instruction Mech SUPER-6000L |
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You cant over armor a mech. There is just no such thing.
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McBride
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| Posted: 02-Nov-2005 15:47 Post subject: RE: User Review: 1A Class Instruction Mech SUPER-6000L |
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| Normally I'd agree... but they are some mech types that don't benefit from max armour, and this mech would be an example of where too much armour is just a waste, therefore it could be overarmoured.
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Stinger
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| Posted: 02-Nov-2005 22:58 Post subject: RE: User Review: 1A Class Instruction Mech SUPER-6000L |
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How in the world does a mech not benefit from having max or near max? Sorry there is no mech that benefits from to much armor coverage. Too much armor is really a myth.
A mech can be Overgunned, over heatsinked, or even to fast. having to much armor is never something you will see a mech with. Most of the time I would rather bolt on more. (even when the deesign has max armor).
[ This Message was edited by: Stinger on 2005-11-02 22:59 ]
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StarRaven
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| Posted: 02-Nov-2005 23:26 Post subject: RE: User Review: 1A Class Instruction Mech SUPER-6000L |
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On 2005-11-02 14:38, Sleeping Dragon wrote:
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On 2005-11-02, StarRaven wrote:
Bravo. A 5 for fluff, certainly. This is pretty much every flaw one sees in a 'Mech, and should be mandatory reading for anyone new to designing.
And Mr. Killroy is a very strong argument for Clan-style, live-fire training.
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Not every flaw, it doesn't have weapon that lacks ammo to be really useful, it isn't over armored and over sinked (that would be counterproductive )
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True, but the flaws you have included are far more common (except for the low ammo).
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On 2005-11-02 15:14, Stinger wrote:
You cant over armor a mech. There is just no such thing.
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I think he's referring to something like the 55 ton chassis - where the final point of armor takes up a full half-ton. On a 55 ton 'Mech, max armor is kind of a waste when you can go one point less and get a half-ton for something else.
Edit: Spelling.
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McBride
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| Posted: 03-Nov-2005 00:22 Post subject: RE: User Review: 1A Class Instruction Mech SUPER-6000L |
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On 2005-11-02 23:26, StarRaven wrote:
I think he's referring to something like the 55 ton chassis - where the final point of armor takes up a full half-ton. On a 55 ton 'Mech, max armor is kind of a waste when you can go one point less and get a half-ton for something else.
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Exactly. In addition to that, there are also the utility mechs, which benefit from some armour (workplace hazards) but most definitely not from max armour. In that case it's just a waste of money and perfectly good armour plating.
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Stinger
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| Posted: 03-Nov-2005 02:57 Post subject: RE: User Review: 1A Class Instruction Mech SUPER-6000L |
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Oh lord. Ill spend the extra half ton on the 1 point. (usually I dont have any free slots for the superfulous small laser anyway).
Utility mechs dont really count when were talking about combat units. A utility mech with full armor is alwys goign to be a waste.
But I guess my point is, I prefer mechs with 100% armor coverage. I will go NO less than 90% when I armor a mech. If I have to sacrafice .5 tons to do that I will. Every time.
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Sleeping Dragon
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| Posted: 03-Nov-2005 15:45 Post subject: RE: User Review: 1A Class Instruction Mech SUPER-6000L |
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Well, for less than four points I wouldn't, but I really meant overmaxing the armor (if that is the word).
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